So like a lot of new guys I've watched as many videos as I could on honing. I just finished watching Charlie Lewis honing a smiling wedge using a rolling x stroke and the spine seemed to leave the hone at the end of the stroke, actually lifted. Glen says the spine should never leave the hone. I think Lynn kept the spine on the hone but did some gymnastics which I could not really see. Charlie Lewis had the perfect angle to see this stroke but now I am pretty confused. I guess there are a lot of ways to get a perfect bevel but I would like to settle on one....I even watched a guy do a rolling x sitting in his underwear with the hone on a gigantic stump or slab of a tree....he did some weird stuff with his razor....tapping, doing little circles with the toe of the razor scraping at the spine....like I said, I'm a little confused.