Hi guys, this is my first post and I am hoping some of you guys can help me out with some advice. I have been using a straight for almost a year now and have a decent grasp of honing. I was able to take a vintage Boker from not cutting a single hair to shaving like butter. I recently acquired a few wade and butchers and a Boker from ebay. The problem is that two of the Wade and Butchers are dull. And I mean that the edge doesn't come to a sharp point, it is noticeably rounded. I tried to get one to a sharp point, but I was working on it for hours to no avail, it was able to pass the tnt, but it still would not cut any hair on my arm. I was hoping some of you guys could give me some tips and ideas on what to do. I have thought about sending it out, but I tend to be one of those guys that wants to do it himself and learn in the process. I have a combo course/fine india stone, a combo soft/hard ark, and a surgical black ark. Thanks for any information.