Ok so after reading the long thread on the Arkansas stones I bought a 11.5x2.5 trans and a 3.5 x 6 primitive black from dans . Both were flat but not as smooth as I would like so they each got 3 sheets of 800, 1200, and 2000 wet dry. Then to burnish I used my old Kbar and did maybe 1000 laps on each . I took a razor that I recently just refreshed and gave it about 100 laps. Feedback was very nice I could tell how the edge was coming along by sound and feel. Shaved with it today and boy what a difference! First very sharp I quickly reduced both my normal shaving pressure and angle which yielded a much smoother shave no as sting except for the usual Adam's apple area ( curse you Adam's apple).