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I've been getting very acceptable edges off a 4/8K Norton and more recently a Chrom-Ox Balsa board, but after much research and garnering of opinions, I ordered a 12K synthetic. I can't wait to try my noob pyramid skills on it. I also ordered a 4oz peening hammer.... It's going to be a sharp, and tight, christmas at my house :)
Nice one! I am sure you will be pleased.
You will get a lot of mileage out of both those tools. The Nani12 is maybe the easiest hone out there to put a killer finish on an already good 8k edge-enjoy!
Glen, I see you like this. I ALWAYS listen to the more knowledgeable guys. Rules for a happy life:
1) ask people who know more than you
2) listen to what they say
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I think you will be more then happy with it :) The Naniwa ss 12k is just a rock solid performer
It was a great time Chatting with you yesterday too made my day sitting in the office go by much faster :p
Good choice. Be sure to not soak it and obtain a well-worn DMT 325 or a 600 to smooth it out under running water prior to use.
The little dots you see in the hone are the abrasive, the white is substrate. After a bit of use, the substrate wears away faster than the suspended abrasive. About 20 light strokes on the DMT makes all smooth again!
I really like mine!
'not soak it' ok, that's good to know, I've been soaking my norton for 15-20 mins before use
Naniwas get a bit swollen and strange if soaked. I lap mine a bit under running water and let it sit with water on top for 5-10 minutes before using. I use only one side of mine, the side with the abrasive most evenly dispersed in the substrate. You will enjoy finishing with that! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ecormier
Ecormier, check out this thread for some interesting results on the 12K Super Stone.
Can’t go wrong with a 12K Super Stone.
Here
Yummmm i love my Naniwas. I'd love to get me a 12k. Coticule will have to do for now.
Just came in the mail yesterday with a new 4oz peening hammer.... I've got a week left to classes and then I'm going for a big refresh on about 14 razors. Anyone have any advice? I now have 1k, 4k, 8k, 12k and chrom-ox. Using pyramid, would I use all the stones at once with a complex pyramid pattern, or is it better to use two stone at a time, and then swap out the low grit for the next higher grit?
I’m not Sure what you are asking, but it looks like a perfect progression. You do not need to use a pyramid every time with all your stones. It is a problem solving technique, when an edge will not come or stay together.
You would only use all the stones if you do a complete re-setting of a bevel. For example, from a chip removal where much of the bevel and all of the edge has been removed, or a vintage razor new to you and you just want to start over with a completely new bevel and edge.
For just a re-fresh without damage, no major chipping, ink the bevel and put it on the 12K with one layer of tape. A couple of laps will tell you how much of the bevel will need to be removed. When re-freshing, the bevel should already be flat and the edge meeting, but perhaps not completely or lightly chipping, all you need to do is bring the bevels together. You are refreshing, just the edge.
A 12k can completely re-set a bevel with about 40-100 laps. If after a couple of laps you see a lot of deep stria or the edge is not coming together, looking straight down on the edge, move down in grit to the 8K, continue moving down in grit, if needed to remove deep stria, then work back up, removing the previous stria.
The least amount of steel you can remove with high grit stones, the stronger the edge will be. Avoid using a lot of pressure, once the edge comes together, do 10 light laps to polish the bevels and edge, strop and shave.
so for a refresh I don't need to: pyramid between 4k & 8k, then pyramid between 8k & 12k ??? I can just do a few laps on the 12k and be done?
Correct. You could also follow with a few laps on chromium oxideQuote:
Originally Posted by ecormier
Awesome, you guys rock.... just giving your knowledge away to noobs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgister
thanks!
I just ordered a Naniwa Chosera 1k for bevel setting. I love Lynn's video on the Bevel Setting With the 1k Chosera. I also have his dvd & he has excellent honing techniques that work well, after all, he's a master honemeister. I have also watched videos on here done by Lynn & gssixgun & I love them. They know their stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by eastoahu
Yep, I've got the DVD and a whole pile of videos on youtube bookmarked.... great way to learn, just watch and testQuote:
Originally Posted by engine46