Faux Frameback

Pretty certain that was done at the inception of the forum. It was intended(as best it could) to initiate those new to razors as to various grinds and was obviously borrowed from somewhere and posted for eternity. Much more has been learned since then.
For example, look at what is being stated as a concave razor. Most ordinary razors are concave. The one depicted was made before good concave grinds became the norm. Yes, the blade below the massive spine is sometimes concaved. Sometimes the lower portion is a fairly thin true wedge.

This info is named from what was proclaimed upon the razors. Many have been stamped and engraved with 'Concave Razor', but we know what a concave razor actually is....Don't we? :shrug: Figures 1 throug 6 are examples of concave grinds. Why do we need to see a Microtome there? The razor depicted is a half-rattler. Not a 'concave' razor!

OK, here's one for the grind definition books, how about this one..

Wade and Butcher, Celebrated Double Swaged Concave Razor...what the heck is Double Swaged!?!

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Lots of concavity there, Eh? Swaged here and there! :rolleyes: A half-rattler! I have one!
How'z about a 'Feather Edge'?

Hmmm. Good question Andrew. I believe that swagged generally refers to a groove in the side of a blade to make it lighter. Like the razor in post 36 http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...chables-4.html

Perhaps the mods could move this to a new thread entitled Razor Grinds, types.
Might prove interesting.....

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Originally Posted by RezDog

Hmmm. Good question Andrew. I believe that swagged generally refers to a groove in the side of a blade to make it lighter. Like the razor in post 36 http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...chables-4.html

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A small discussion here; http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...ave-razor.html

I think it refers to the lower, thinner portion of the blade being made thin during forging to begin the shape of the blade.
Red-hot, smashed on one side, flipped in a fixture, Smashed again? Possibly just a marketing gimmick?

My 0.02$ on double swaging is that it is double compressed during assembly of the blade pieces. Assuming that the blade and frame were constructed in two processes the swage would be the fitting together step.

Theory drawn from wire rope slings and such in industry, ends are 'swagged where the wire rope terminates, either back into itself in an eyelet, or to another piece of equipment. Typically done under high pressure compression. So could be in the thinning of the lower blade as well maybe.


Quote from wiki;

Swaged terminations[edit]

Swaging is a method of wire rope termination that refers to the installation technique. The purpose of swaging wire rope fittings is to connect two wire rope ends together, or to otherwise terminate one end of wire rope to something else. A mechanical or hydraulic swager is used to compress and deform the fitting, creating a permanent connection. There are many types of swaged fittings. Threaded Studs, Ferrules, Sockets, and Sleeves are a few examples.[14] Swaging ropes with fibre cores is not recommended.

Nice looking framebacks gents...

I believe it refers to the groove in a sword or knife blade, used in part to lighten the blade. I know it also refers to something they do to saw blades in the mills but I have no idea what.

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Originally Posted by RezDog

I believe it refers to the groove in a sword or knife blade, used in part to lighten the blade. I know it also refers to something they do to saw blades in the mills but I have no idea what.

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They must be referring to the lower, thinner part of these blade. Certainly they are one-piece , but surely have been lightened considerably! Still heavy suckers, though! ;)

The Elliot example is a very heavy blade. It does not seem like it was made much lighter with the grooves. It did make it a little more rare and I think an increase in the cool factor. So if the Elliot is not a swaged blade what do we call that grind?