Hello all, I've been experimenting with honing lately I've had some success. Been able to hone up a swedish razor I bought at an antique store as well as an old red imp from eBay. I'm using synthetic stones all naniwas, super stones with the plastic base glued on. My finishing stone is a 12k Naniwa from SRD. I have an RA torrey razor I've been working on I spent quite awhile on the 1k because there was a slight dip in the blade that I had to work past to get even contact on the hone. I also used two layers of tape, which I changed out with each grit progression. By the time I got done with the 8k it was poping hairs on my leg nicely so I went ahead and moved up to the 12k and finished it. Then strop and a quick shave test and it pulled like a son of a @*$%#. I'm not sure what the deal is here I'm using circles and with X strokes and the heel forward 45 stroke to cover the whole edge. 20 circles 20x and 20 45° strokes. Do I need to do more finishing strokes? I have a loupe and from my limited experience the edge looks good but I'm definitely missing something. Also I wonder if I should have ditched the tape after I worked past the flaws in the edge and reset the bevel on the 1k. Thanks guys hopefully someone will have some advice.