So I picked up a DMT 8k hone. A question to the DMT users...how many times do you have to stroke the razor on the hone before you get a sharp edge? I want to be careful not to over hone...but I have done 20-30 passes without any improvement.

As well, I dropped the razor and bent the front of the blade about .5mm. Do I need something coarser to sharpen the edge or will the DMT be enough?