Thread: razor edge

Has anybody other than myself ever used or heard of a 'razor edge systems' hone before? Since the norton waterstones seem to be where the bar is set, could anybody tell me how they compare to the norton stones? They're certainly cheaper. And can anybody tell me if it's usually necessary to lap a shapton when you first get it?

got any links? I haven't, but that doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, that's John Juranich's company, he is credited with being one of the first guys to really study what the word "sharp" means.

His system is designed for knives, and does very well for them, but the hones are man-made and are not a specific grit, so I wouldn't recommend them for razor use.

internet glitch, duplicate post.

Thanks to the wonderful world of Google, I found this link.
If that's the one you are talking about, then I would say it is likely not of use for a razor. Despite the name, these hones are for knives so I would guess that they are not of sufficiently fine grit for honing razors. That's only my guess as there is no mention of grit in the hone descriptions.

Either Russel was too fast or I was too slow! In either case, trust him, not me--since he arrived at his conclusion from knowledge and I arrived at mine from guessing.

Well, I can't claim to have used those hones personally, but I've heard other guys in knife sharpening circles talk about their performance.

The bottom line is that they aren't fine enough, a knife requires much less care and precision to make a truly great edge than a razor does.

But that doesn't mean that they can't be used, many razors have to have a bevel formed on lower grit hones, you'd just have to get a finishing stone or pasted strop to refine the edge before trying to shave with it.

(I know John has that famous picture of him shaving with an axe that he sharpened, but that doesn't mean it was comfortable. I can get a blade to cut hair off a DMT 325, but that would destroy the average guy's face if he tried to shave with it. )

As for the bar being set by the Norton's, I'd like to respectfully disagree. Many guys around here use them and seem to like they're performance, but I never found them to be anything special. A good Coticule (like the ones from theperfectedge.com) is really the way to go in my book.

Yes, those were the hones of which I speak. They are certainly not the last thing I would use before I go to the strop, as they are not polishing stones, but how do they compare to the lower grit norton stones?