MARKER TEST

[gary haywood]

I have 3inch wide norton stones and a 1 and a half inch wide bbw coticule kosher combo 5 inch long. my hones are lapped religously with dmt coarse wich does job well. I conducted marker test on a razor i have been honing quite regular. marker was not removing from middle of blade on one side on my norton so i used rolling x and this worked i then used my combo hone and did a couple of passes flat with marker and the marker was completly removed in normal x pattern flat. so i put a pencil grid on my norton relapped to make sure it was flat. i then put marker on my blade, x pattern flat on the norton and the marker did not remove from the same spot i went back to my combo and it removed the marker i tryed on the edge or side of my norton which is what an inch wide and i kept the razor flat and the marker was completly removed this i carn't under stand as any one got any ideas why this would happen i have read that people do prefer narrower hones and some people have there notrons cut down the middle.

[KristofferBodvin]

It could be that your razor is slightly warped, that way it would me much easyer to remove the marks on the narrow hone.

Kristoffer

[gary haywood]

i reckon it is warped it is an old razor my mate gave me it was so blunt there was no bevel what so ever thanxs for that info i've just about done honing now just going to try it out for the fifth time .

[English]

Gary,

The narrow hone is a great tool for uneven spines. I think you can buy coticules with a domed surface. It would look like an upturned letter U if you looked at one end. On such a hone, you can not miss the edge as only a tiny part of metal is touching at any time.

Similarly, I think that if you heavily strop a wedge on a flat bed leather hone covered in Cr Ox, the give in the leather makes up for or allows for the warp ensuring a more comfortable edge all over.

[gary haywood]

Gary,

The narrow hone is a great tool for uneven spines. I think you can buy coticules with a domed surface. It would look like an upturned letter U if you looked at one end. On such a hone, you can not miss the edge as only a tiny part of metal is touching at any time.

Similarly, I think that if you heavily strop a wedge on a flat bed leather hone covered in Cr Ox, the give in the leather makes up for or allows for the warp ensuring a more comfortable edge all over.

if i was setting a bevel on a norton 1k with a warped razor i would you use the rolling x and just try and use the last inch of hone and the same when i was to move on to 4k 8k would that be ok? and then if i finish on my coticule combo being narrow i could go back to standard x flat and this would'nt effect my edge provided technique was consistant and good?

[English]

Gary,

I don't know the answer, I don't have the norton hones.

If you think about wrapping a piece of sandpaper around a bottle, I think that would be a perfect hone for setting a bevel on a warped spine razor. You would have to keep turning the bottle so you present the razors edge with fresh sandpaper each time. I'd use 1000 grit wet and dry and stick it to the bottle with double sided sticky tape. I'd then go onto 2000 grit. I'd then skip the norton all together and go straight to the coticule with a heavy slurry and hone away on that for a while and then the coticule with just water and then the coticule with liquid soap. If that didn't do it, I would then strop on a flat leather bedded strop or a piece of newspaper covered with a bit of Cr Ox. Finally about 75 strops on a hanging leather strop but held quite tight. You could even wrap newspaper around a bottle for the Cr Ox if it is necessary.

[gary haywood]

Hi english realy interesting that it is surprising what you can do. by the way i have been finishing with soapy water on my coticule and i like it, it keeps hone slick for as long as i need and gives good feeling and controll just like the slurry does.