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OK, it's not curable. But it *can* be put in remission. :)
My Shapton 30k from SRD should be here today. :D
My vintage Pike's combination Belgium should be here when it clears customs coming from Canada. So, what, maybe by summer?
These two acquisitions have successfully put me in HAD remission. Well, that and the threats from SWMBO...
Worthless post, I know, but I had to share my excitement with someone, cause all I seem to get here at the house are glares...
Be sure to post your results of that 30k, I hope for the sake of my wallet that they are not to good....
Kristoffer
Kristoffer, I can tell ya right now, you might as well pry that wallet open. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KristofferBodvin
I have a Lynn honed blade that he finished on a 30k Shapton (at least... I think he did.. hmm... I'll have to ask him to be absolutely sure), and it is a-mazing. I've mentioned that I like a *really* sharp blade. The problem with *reallY* sharp blades is that they tend to leave weepers. A highly lubricating cream/soap helps, but for the most part, really sharp blades make you bleed. Lynn put mine right in the sweet spot: so sharp that ATG passes do not skip, hop, jump, stutter, but so buttery smooth that it leaves no weepers behind. That's a very small target to hit, and he did it. And I'm almost positive he did it by finishing on the 30k Shapton.
I'm a baaad influence, I know... :p
Edit: I've had lots of success getting my blades to shavette blade sharpness, but still haven't hit the smooth target yet, although my new coticule has come close. Even closer than the Shapton 16k.
I thought I was in remission until Bart posted about the Choseras. :gaah: Still fighting the jones. :shrug:
Just send all your old hones to me so you have an excuse to buy new ones :w
So... your method is about purchasing a piece of everything that's on the market? :D
My lust for hones has been *almost* satisfied with my combo Belgian. All that's left on my shopping list is a green coticule! :gaah:
Your hones have not yet even arrived, and you're claiming to be cured?!
:rofl2::roflmao:rofl2::roflmao
No, my good man, what you have there is called a "fix", it has momentarily stopped the urge to buy more.....:gl:
HAD remission? Yeah right. You're not out of the woods yet, buddy. Like Jimmy said, there's the Chosera 10k and you haven't mentioned having a Nakayama Asagi in your arsenal. Well, you DID say remission rather than a cure, so I guess you could be right.;)
Chris L
That is what I thought too .... the Chosera 10K but then I read that it works so much better if you get the 5k too :eek: I don't even want to get started with the Japanese naturals. I go to So's or Old Schools sites and I am like a kid staring throught the window of the candy store and no money. :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L
*sigh* just when I felt like I was making progress, you guys just *HAD* (pun intended) to bring up the Choseras and the Japanese naturals, dincha?? Talk about poking a guy that has HAD with a stick... sheesh.
Man.... Old School has some nice looking naturals there, doesn't he.......
Oh, and I loooooove my green coticule! :w
+1 to that Jimmy! I so want a natural japanese!
Brandt: having that whole shapton set without the holder, the pond and the dia.lapper is like having furniture without a house.You wouldnt do that, would you? Oh, and I forgot.Tried out the eschers yet? :-)
Kristoffer
I had a feeling you would. What's not to love? My green coticule 8"x3" natural combo is suhweeet!Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
Chris L
FloorPizza, you're killing me. I've been on the fence about this stone from day one. There's only the 500 and 30k and I've got a complete set. Well, until I "need" the holders and pond. Crap, I just got paid today too. Someone remind me how spending money is good for our economy right now, even if they're imported.
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Originally Posted by KristofferBodvin
LOL, noooooooo!!!! I better go sharpen something before I do something stupid (again).
I feel it is my civic duty as a good American to remind you that spending money is good for the economy right now, even if they're imported. And don't I hear the jingle of tax return money in your pocket???!:gl:Quote:
Originally Posted by bpave777
Jimmy, you should go to Foodieforums.com, the "Fred's cutlery Forum" subforum, and search for the Sigma Power 10k vs the Chosera 10k. Most people there feel that you get 99% of the Chosera benefits for about 1/2 the price when you go with the Sigma Power.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
The straight razor guys know three things: Shaptons, Nortons and Naturals. (DMT doesn't count to me...)
The kitchen guys however, know sigma power, naniwa, king, norton, shapton, takenoko, etc.... I've learned much more about manmade stones from the kitchen guys, and I wish that we could get more of that variety here (I can hear it now..."well why don't you buy them all and let us know, Ben? :) ). It seems that we as straight razor users on average are much more hesitant to break out of the norm and use something that doesn't have a reputation built up yet. Takenoko 8k stones are rumored to be great, naniwa 5k,, etc.
My green coticule mops the floor with the others!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L
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Originally Posted by Ben325e
Aha, now it's all clear....
Ben325 has clearly muddled his mind by dallying in the kitchen knife forums, and that's how he ended up all confused and doing stuff like this...
";"
Thanks for the info, Ben. I know it seems like razor guys are set in their ways and resistant to change to some degree; but actually, even though a handful of the veterans have been using either the Shapton pro series or the ceramic on glass for quite awhile, that group was VERY small up until about a year ago when more of us really added to the overall group. Shapton popularity relatively speaking is very new around here. Us HADdicts are only limited by time and budget in trying new stones that we think will be good for razors. Keep feeding us with options as others will also and we'll have the urge to try them all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben325e
Spyderco ceramics were pretty hot for a short time around here and seemed to have since fizzled in popularity. We're all for trying new stones IMO.
Chris L
As unbelievable as it sounds, I *did* cure my HAD. My cure is not for everyone, and does carry risk, but here it is for anyone interested.
I went and bought an expensive Japanese natural stone. I do not think the cure was the stone itself, but it's cost and the wife's reaction to it when she found out! I found the threat of divorce makes one put into perspective those bits of rock dug up from the ground that one rubs razor on :D
I did have one bout of remission, but that was less about HAD and more about completing a set.
James.
D**n time and money! Two little things that ruin all the fun.... I tell ya.. if they mess with me just ONE more time, I'm gonna....... *grumble grumble*.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L;327150 Us HADdicts are only limited by[COLOR=DarkOrchid
Okay... much to my wife's chagrin, I'll try to assemble a "master list" of waterstones. This outta be fun.
I could see that, Jimbo. I'm not going to take your plan that far. Actually, I'm happy to say my HAD although it will probably never be cured, has stayed in check for quite awhile now. I have refrained from buying stones like the Chosera 10k and the Shapton 30k even though I want them. My urge to acquire and try any stone out there, both natural or manufactured was, I have to admit, tied in with my newness to this craft. I'm by no means what I would consider to be a honemeister; however, my HAD at its worst I must admit was fueled somewhat by the subconscious notion that stone "X" would be the magic stone that would easily and astoundingly bring my edges to a place men only dream of. The STONE would bring my edges there. Wisdom and at least a small amount of experience although latent, has brought that into perspective for me. Naturally it's the honer and not the hone that matters most. You guys know all of this, but I thought I'd mention it for the benefit of any newbie in the future that may be combing this thread in the future. Practice skills first and acquire many stones second if you wish. Either way, you have to develop the skills. Having 100 stones won't help if you don't have technique.
Just a few hopefully helpful thoughts.
Chris L
Postman showed up, and as expected, he brought my Shapton 30k from SRD. Thanks, Lynn and Don!
Scuse me while I go hone something.... :)
Now you tell me :rant: :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L
This is exactly the same as my experiences with HAD, even though I haven't tried that many finishers, just paste, the UF, 16K, coticule and a Nakayma, I've learned a lot, probably the most important lesson was that the new stone, the magic next one, wouldn't be any better than the honer doing the actual honing. I'll admit that I realized this a couple of weeks after getting my Nakayama from So, and experimenting a lot with it, comparing razors finished on the different finishing hones I have available to me, seemd to kill my urge for high grit stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L
The only stones I'm thinking about at the moment is a 1K and/or a 2K bevelsetter which would double as a finisngstone for some of my knifes, and since I've been reading a lot over at knifesforum about the Sigma Power series, I'm tempted to try those.
Wouldn’t a full beard be a good cure for both RAD and HAD?
The price is right. :hmmm:
Really sharp blades do indeed leave weepers, but that's because you are shaving the same way that you are used to. Instead, you need to adjust to the sharpness and use less pressure, no... make that NO pressure. I use Tabac soap with some glycerol, it's extremely lubricated lather. Once I adjusted, no more weepers!
That Shapton 30k isn't a real cure for HAD. I'll bet it's more like just eating dinner. You will be hungry again...soon. :eek: You might even already be thinking about dessert?Quote:
Originally Posted by FloorPizza
I, however, am cured.
(Ignore my signature line. Barber hones don't count anyway...yes???)
If it makes you feel better I will agree with that. :wQuote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
When you get one of these stones you will be cured ....... for sure. :)
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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:I love it!:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
Chris L
You too?:gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Let me guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
That's the extremely rare, legendary BBG (Belgian Blue Gravestone), you had ordered for yourself, in a far future.
Am I correct?
;)
Bart.