What would be the modern equivalent to a Swaty or similar hone?
A friend of mine wants all new gear to start out straight shaving. He will start with a shave ready razor.
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What would be the modern equivalent to a Swaty or similar hone?
A friend of mine wants all new gear to start out straight shaving. He will start with a shave ready razor.
They don't make barber hones anymore.
if you want another hone will do the same job as swaty then check SRD FOR 12K SUPERSTONEs.
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl
I thought that would be about right, but wasn't sure.
There's also the Chinese 12K from Woodcrafters. IIRC, it's a bit less expensive.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with old gear. There's a reason Swaty made over 5 million hones.
The reason is, people figured out that they were great hones. They still are, and relatively speaking, for maintenance only, they are still a great and effective bargain.
He's one of those people that wants only new, I couldn't sell him a Nox-all of mine even for a real good price. Personally the only thing I would buy new would be the strop and the brush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Well, then, I guess you should buy one of those OLD "I'm with Stupid-->" T-shirts!Quote:
Originally Posted by rodb
Now now...let's be generous. Some people have "things". I have "things" about spiders and hand washing...who am I to judge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Anyway, here's a bit of a sidetrack, though not entirely.
In a PM conversation, a member recently asked me about a "Punjab Barber Hone" that a barber had shown him in a catalogue. I said I didn't know anything about it, but that if it wasn't widely used, and it was anything at ALL like the Zeepk hones, then it should maybe be avoided. However, that hone has been niggling at the back of my head for a while, so I did a google search, and look what I turned up...
The link in that ancient thread is dead, of course, but the limited info looked promising. Does anyone know ANYTHING more about that hone? it might be the "new" barber hone that people are wanting.
If so, I might owe someone an apology...
How new can a rock be? Have him get a coticule and tell him it's new.
I was being facetious about the t-shirt, but I don't really see much difference between a new and old hone.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimR
Anyway, about the Punjab, I'll try to remember to take a picture of one for you.
I know, I was just giving you a hard time...sorry about that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
You have one? Are they Zeepk hones? Terrible? Or not that bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
I'm finding that a long time ago (around 2005) there was some mention of them on various threads, but not recently....not a good sign, I guess.
What's the deal with the zeepk hone. I see it on ebay every so often and of course avoid it due to zeepk's reputation, but the other night I got curious again. What's wrong with it? It doesn't cut steel at all? It's not a good grit for a barber hoen? I mean, for the price I was thinking it could be a good stone for newbies, even if it turns out to be a 4k or even a bevel setter :shrug: The only thing I can think of that would make it useless would be it not cutting steel at all, or cutting really inconsistently somehow? Or I guess cutting really really slow. Anyone actually tried one?
I did. I even tried the razor too. They will cut metal, and possibly set bevels, but I learned the hard way. I am looking to buy a nice coticule to ad to my Nortons and Chinese 12K. It's cheaper in the long run to avoid anything that says Zeepk on it including strops, hones, or anything else. The hone I had was small and narrow which I found hard to use as a beginner and it certainly does not compare to any quality hone on the market. The best hone for a new person in my opinion is the Norton 4K/8K and to start with a professionally honed razor. I have achieved the HHT with the 8K norton, but now am becoming obsessed with trying to get the perfect shave. SO, I am looking for a Coticule, possibly the new 12K Naniwa or 16K shapton. I hope to get all three in in the future. I also want a Swaty because I have yet to read a bad review and I would like something to just run my blade over about 10 laps to touch up every few weeks. I say skip the Zeepk there are much better ways to save money on hones.