well tried honing my first straight this week using a combo 4000/8000 norton waterstone, put what i thought was decent bevel on an ebay special with the 4000 then went to the 8000 to get it ready for stropping except no matter how much i honed on the 8k it wouldn't get sharp enough.

watched jockeys vid on honing and he says he knows when it's ready as it will bite into your finger tip (feels sticky) no such feeling, so am i just not honing for long enough?

BTW i have decided to send it to a honemeister now anyway so i know what i'm trying to achieve but i would certainly like any comments on where i may have been going wrong.

THX in advance fellas