Thread: Natural Stone Magic\Natural Steel

I am not so sure about the chemistry either but my observations are close but not exact...

Carbon razors can be sharpened on just about anything...

SS and the newer Super Steels tend to get the best when stroked across the Naniwa SS and the Shapton GS stones...

Of course every time something like this comes up you have to realize that we are all just talking about minor differences here...

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I don't really know anything about the chemistry of steels or hones, but I have gotten some really nice edges on the new Dovo Micartas using my Thurry and Asagi.

Yes,They do give very good edges....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I am not so sure about the chemistry either but my observations are close but not exact...

Carbon razors can be sharpened on just about anything...

SS and the newer Super Steels tend to get the best when stroked across the Naniwa SS and the Shapton GS stones...

Of course every time something like this comes up you have to realize that we are all just talking about minor differences here...

This has been exactly my experience Glenn, that little something extra is what I am talking about. Like the difference from outstanding to extraordinary. Minor, but noticeable on my face.

Going back to carbon, I like the tooth left by Jnats and German Water stones even if they have been finished on 30k syn, I still run them on the naturals.

It is amazing how many stone systems, and razor styles, tempers and grinds, even obsessd amatuers like myself learn hanging with you guys.
It took me almost two years to really figure out the German Stone, the Jnat seemed easier for me. Bare in mind I was raised on a synthetic diet.

Other than bevel setting I had gotten away from synthetics for some months now but I've been returning to them lately. Still tend to finish with the Escher. I don't have any J-nats so I can't comment on them but I am curious.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Other than bevel setting I had gotten away from synthetics for some months now but I've been returning to them lately. Still tend to finish with the Escher. I don't have any J-nats so I can't comment on them but I am curious.

I admire your self dicipline? I really could not have just one finsher.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Other than bevel setting I had gotten away from synthetics for some months now but I've been returning to them lately. Still tend to finish with the Escher. I don't have any J-nats so I can't comment on them but I am curious.

Still no Jnats, Jimmy?! I mean, c'mon dude! LOL!

I haven't actually honed any SS blades yet because I have never bought one, I tend to buy old razors and they're usually Carbon Blades but Sham and I did have a conversation once about the Charnley Forest and I learned that the CF was very good for finishing SS blades but wasn't used for any Carbon blades...

I thought it was interesting.

Hi,

I must admit to be a curmudgeonly, miserable git when it comes to natural stones

Being an analytical chemist by profession, I prefer the consistency & cost benefit of synthetic hones.

So by having this odd point of view, I have never exerienced the delights of natural stones

Recently, some strange force has been driving me to get a coti, so there is hope for me yet

All my razors, carbon steel, SS & C135 hone wonderfully on my Nainwas

Have fun !

Best regards

Russ

I haven't actually honed any SS blades yet because I have never bought one, I tend to buy old razors and they're usually Carbon Blades but Sham and I did have a conversation once about the Charnley Forest and I learned that the CF was very good for finishing SS blades but wasn't used for any Carbon blades...

I thought it was interesting.[/QUOTE]

I see we go to the same school. Yes the CF will do better with SS, So will a Turkish oilstone and or a nice high end Arki. I have all three and from what I have seen so far this is a true statement.. I only use synthetics for bevel progression to about 8K. Then switch to naturals for finishing. My Eschers are at the top rung of the ladder. And some other stones/ hones you can play tricks with. The quest continues. that's the fun part.
MIke

Thanks Mike:
I am just starting the first dance steps with my CF, but I guess I am going to have to try a spin with a SS razor now... I have done about 10 razors on it so far all carbon and have been getting some good results...

Getting this one dialed in is most likely going to take a bit of time I like to do about 100 razors on them before I start thinking I know them... I'll have to push some SS on there, which is going to be hard for me because I normally push them toward the Naniwas

Whoa G, I’m susceptible to flattery. Don’t forget your good Ol Translucent Arki, you may be surprised how similar the two behave on “Stain – Less” steel. I just picked up a Sheffield’s Best Silver Steel razor.

It took Sham 10hrs to get an edge on that thing. It’s not stainless either. Freaky looking thing with a safety catch on the handle. I’ll see if I can get a pic posted.

MIke

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I don't have any J-nats so I can't comment on them but I am curious.

I guess you're dangerously close to a screen name change
Maybe Jimmy J-nat-not?