I got a Crown&Sword 5/8 razor off ebay a few months ago and when I got it it was dull as a butter knife soooo I put it to the Norton 4000/8000 it shaved as good as a freash Dovo Shavette blade. i was stropping it the other day and noticed that at the very tip of the spike piont it was picking up the smallest amount of red color from the strop so I held it under the sunlight and i could see the tip of it was just very slightly curled and my OCD just wouldnt stand for that. I got the same Norton 4000/8000 to fix it I got the curl out so thats all good but it doesnt shave anywhere near the same. I did the pyramid starting at 25 on each side of the hone and stropped it and not worth a crap!! I had to use my Shavette to shave today!!!. Its my favorite razor outta my 7 razors. This whole honing thing is almost as hard as when I was learning how to weld pipe.