A small article from 1854, does this make sense to anybody?
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A small article from 1854, does this make sense to anybody?
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I'm just hoping that the particles in my razor don't go moving anywhere real far away. I'm going to need the darn thing tomorrow.
Sounds like a lot of hogwash , and double talk , to me . I can't really make heads or tails out of what the person is saying , but I think the gist of it is that instead of a 7 day set , you need a 20 day set of razors .:rolleyes:
Yep 20 day set is what I read too
I think he's referring to the quantum physics side of honing. ;)
Did they say if a "honemeister" honed it to start with ? Would it pass HHT .......... :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
shhhhhhhhhhhhhh you'll wake my razors.
If the honemeister was Schrodinger we would have to accept that the razor was both honed & not honed simultaneously. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Excellent! My RAD has been justified by Scientific American!Quote:
Originally Posted by dave5225
And yet another way to skin a cat. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
Ah, a 20 day set!
Yes dear, I am thinning the collection but studies show I must have a 20 day set and maybe a back-up.:w
Yeah, I don't know about the razor wisdom in that article, but my mama adjusted my wisdom and rearranged my particles with a strop a few times and made it hard to set for 20 days!! :nono:
Regards,
Howard :D
Experiment anyone? Just take your tired razors and lay them by for 20 days and see if they then shave well.
If they don't, strike them smartly and test them again.
I guess they're talking about metal fatigue, loading and unloading? The 20 day thing sounds like bunk however :)
What you guys forget, is this article was probably written on Christmas Eve, after a few glasses of Egg Nog. :beer2:
Maybe I ought to lay myself away for 20 days and then I won't be so tired.
Time laps SEM pics over 20 days, anybody?
I don't thick we'll need more than 1 pic tho.
Yes, I have found this and have proof that the phenomenon occurs. Unfortunately there is not enough room in this window to write it down.
James.
Classic, thanks for the laugh! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Better get a 1 year set. Just to be on the safe side. On a certain level it is true that the particles are in motion; enough so that diffusion in metals is actually possible. But to the point that it would affect a macroscopic edge, or that movement would be visible under a microscope, doesn't sound right. I agree, we need TEM images :hmmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by dave5225
JPL were doing something with tools that would fix themselves, but that was in a lab and at elevated temp...
Someday we get a Gillette with 72 blades that fix it self overnight.
I like the article. Just proof to wifey why I need 20 razors!!!:deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by dave5225
... and separate hones to go with them!Quote:
Originally Posted by CBrown
Maybe the so called "Honemeisters" just keep the razor for a few days, let it fix it self and send it back?
Sort of like aircraft technicians writing FIFI in the service log!
I have observed that a blade will become strongly magnetized with repeated honing and that this magnetization will dissipate over a week or two. I do wonder if small particles of metal stuck to the edge would have any noticeable effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
The only thing this article proves is what passed for "science" in the mid 19th century needs to be looked at werry werry carefully
Of course they also believed that Cholera was caused by bad air, but I have to believe there was some repeatable observation that led to the resting razor hypothesis. I was under the impression that the resting razor effect was related to the formation of a thin layer of oxide that could be stropped away. What is describe here sounds like magnetization to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
we must admit that the generation of the '60's didn't invent strange and long living effects of certain types of wacky "tobacco", that authors pipe was filled to the brim with the stuff or so it would seem from the esoteric nonsense that filled the article!!
It's gonna keep me up nights, this image of my blades' edges as long skinny sea anenome things, waving and braiding all random-like. T'aint right! Be STILL, dang you!
One thing I see in the article that hasn't been addressed in the comments is in regard to the stropping. By the same hand, in the same direction. Maybe the answer is to bring in a relief stropper. If you're a right hand stropping person, call in a South paw. Just as the case was in MLB, there was a need for good left handed pitchers, perhaps in the barber shops, lefties were also in demand? I'm right handed, but, by golly, I'm going to try to strop my razors left handed for a while. Hey, I just got a brand new strop, I'm sure everything will be just fine!!
You find that 'resting' advice in a lot of old barber manuals. I guess that old barbers had a lot in common with old wives - both seem to be fond of tales.
Not sure I agree about the magnetising element - low carbon steel is easily temporarily magnetised and loses that property over time or by being knocked about, sure, but to magnetise it in the first place with motions like stropping, banging or honing you have to do it in a north/south orientation - like Catain Ahab banging the harpoon spear in Melvilles classic, Moby Dick.
Regards,
Neil
I used to rest the razors between shaves, now I don't. I have nothing scientific to say other than I have 17 shaves on the same razor without any touchup and it still cuts fine. I might hit the crox tomorrow as it is looking lonely and unused LOL.
If it works don't fix it ..... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bill3152
I subscribe to the "resting" of razors! I let them sit a day, open, after use to dry well before stropping them and putting them back in rotation. I then let them rest for 6 weeks or so as I use others. It seems to work for me! The steel works just fine! :D
As Jimmy sez "if it works, don't fix it........;)"
So, if you were just an average joe in the old days and only had one razor, you had to put up with growing a bit of a beard at fixed intervals, when your razor got tired, poor thing.
Come on guys - those razors were not fatigued - 'oh my poor bevel, I need a rest, I'm not playing today' - they needed a few laps on the hone to teach them not to play up.
Regards,
Neil
I surely am not saying that, Neil! I have a reft of razors and like to use others! Just an old-timey excuse!
I DO believe, though!
I cant believed that you guys dont believe! totally dismiss the author finding, even without even experimenting, I guess you guys dont believe in wrestling either! Ha!
... and when that doesn't work try send them on a relaxing trip to Europe, perhaps my place! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptonn
On the magnetic thing; http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/474252
Post: jdunn342 Jan 25, 2009 05:45 PM
"The reason the shun knives are chipping is not because people are misusing them. It has to do with storing the knives on a magnetic knife strip. In laymen’s terms… When the high quality steel in the shun knives are magnetized, it is causing the crystal structure of the iron and other metals that are magnetic (manganese, vanadium) to be attracted by the magnetic knife strip but the carbon and molybdenum are not attracted to the magnet. There for causing the magnetic crystals (on a microscopic level) to line up away from the non magnetic metals making the knife edge very brittle. So there you have it…Mystery solved. Shun needs to be aware of this and warn it’s consumers of this problem. Don’t store your shun knives on magnetic strips or even the wooden blocks with magnets inside."
First time I read that I flat out let my coffee fall to the floor...
OK. I shave about every second day and I use a straight only at sundays or holidays days, so my 10+ razors will have a lot of time to rest :-)
