Won't get sharp. Help!

Ok, tried honing this razor many times, I have a 1k king did circles 40 each side followed by ten x strokes. Then pyramid style of honing on a 4/8, the TNT seems to have the bevel set, shaves hair on arm but not that greatly. should I be doing something different with my honing due to the shape of the blade? I have walked away many times from this blade and came back to do it again. I really wanna shave this razor but have been so discouraged.. I have hone almost fifty razors and had some problems but always came back to them and tried again then got it.. This one is stumping me?? I haven't used any tape when honing this razor.. MAgic marker test after a few strokes goes away but remains on the toe. Should I put a layer of tape on it and try again?Attachment 123532

3 layers :)

Ok I'll try some tape and see what happens.. thanks I'll let u know..

If I wanna restore this what grit sandpaper would I start at.. Mayb I'll try it..

I would get a well set bevel first, then think about restoration...
It is just a WAG because I really can't see or touch the steel but I used to always start at 400 and see what was going on with the pits

I think I honed it I'm gonna shave with it and see what happens.. How and y did u say three layers of tape??

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Originally Posted by Airportcopper

I think I honed it I'm gonna shave with it and see what happens.. How and y did u say three layers of tape??

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Because it has at least 3mm of hone wear, I just don't grind on them forever and a day any longer, I basically put 1 layer on for each mm of hone wear up to 3 layers.. After 3 layers IMHO it gets a bit mushy, but I know others that do go higher..


You could have honed it out for hours, or you could re-grind the entire blade also...


Here is the better question,,, Why is the hone wear that way, but when you lay it on the hone you are not sharpening the very edge :shrug:

Ponder that for a bit

Just my 2 cents Bart, if the razor I'm honing does not shave arm hair easily on a 1000, I never go further till it does.
I think Glen hit it right with your razor in post # 5, the bevel was never set.
Just my thoughts.

Well hmmm good question.. Someone before me grinded on it all day.. Having same problem .. The tape I felt while honing made a difference.. Plus I learned when a razor has hone wear on it to tape..

She shaves!! Question strop with tape??

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Originally Posted by Airportcopper

She shaves!! Question strop with tape??

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Nice one - congrats!

I have quite a few razors that I have had to hone with multiple layers of tape, and have never used tape when stropping. I stand to be corrected, but I don't think you have to worry about that. Which is good, as having to tape up every time you strop would get pretty annoying after a while. :)

The razor is sharp except the toe.any suggestions?

The spine is probably more worn on the toe also ? Maybe a small piece just on the toe and then start with taping the whole length ? It's all in the angle relationship of spine to edge. More hone wear less angle, taller bevel. Uneven spine = uneven bevel. If it's been reground then you have the added figure of thickness of blade at bevel. And now that I have confused myself I will stop. :<0)

I was having issues with a TI last night, a new one. I spent too much time on it and finally relented, putting tape on the spine. Man, it worked out just fine after that. Still not sure why the heal was not making contact on one side. I was studying the spine and it looks like it was wearing evenly on both sides. Who knows? The bevel does have some funky stuff going on. There are sections where metal is not removed. Some razors hone like magic others make you wanna put your head through a wall.

I'm haveing a similar problem with a Roll's Razor blade, i'm now going to set the bevel on my DMT 325 grit and go from there, wish me luck!!!

I will go to my Norton 4K/8K and then .25uM pasted.

When you get a good Rolls' blade it's good, but when you get a funny one, just sit down and relax, your going to be there for awhile.

tinkersd

One thing that I've learned from reading about these problems and from experience is::
The 1st thing I look at is the spine. If there's excessive hone wear its a pass!
I now don't even look at the rest of the razor. At any price!