I am constantly tinkering with hone progression and have recently found what I consider a good one. Please try it if you have the stones. Bring a razor to shave ready on an 8k stone. Then do 10 laps on a 12k Naniwa. Then 30 w/slurry on a Thuringian. Then 30 more on Thuringian under a running faucet. Then 30 to 40 plain water on a Gokumyo 20,000 grit stone. Strop and shave. Awesome and deadly sharp...........................Jerry