VG10 & the Arkansas

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

I did a mate's Shun on my Shapton Pros, no dramas. Don't be such a baby about your razor hones David. :p

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LOL!! Seriously, I ran them over the superstones and it was heaven!! But of course, the truth is in the fine print lol, I am using this an excuse to buy more more stones!! :) lol! Don't tell the wife!!

That and I have fond memory's of my old Arks.

So there it is lol - you have exposed me for what I am!!

I want to get the Arks not because they really might be better, but rather, because I want new toys, and want to relive my childhood lol!! Why couldn't you just enable me like everyone else onimaru55 LOL :) :)!!

Will I ever grow up lol?? :) Maybe after I get my new stones LOL!!!




-- sorry -- feeling punchy lol -- :) Of course you are right. :tu

Ha! . I bought a black Arky just recently to relive my early honing days. Not as great as I remembered. ;)

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

Ha! . I bought a black Arky just recently to relive my early honing days. Not as great as I remembered. ;)

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They don't make em like they used to lol!!


Seriously though, that's too bad :(. Is it that you just have access to so much better now? Or do you think they just don't work on today's "supersteels" as I have heard so many say (or did you use it on your straights which would negate the whole supersteel thing)??

May I ask where you bought it?

Vg-10 is far from super steel

If you want super steels try ZDP 189, CPM 3V, S90V, S110V

VG-10 when done properly will take great edge and fairly easy, not well done VG-10 will give you headaches trying to get a good edge on it

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Originally Posted by mainaman

Vg-10 is far from super steel

If you want super steels try ZDP 189, CPM 3V, S90V, S110V

VG-10 when done properly will take great edge and fairly easy, not well done VG-10 will give you headaches trying to get a good edge on it

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Sigh lol... but they said it was! I guess super steel is defined by those pushing a product lol!!

I would love to own a ZDP 189, but in my budget, that means Spyderco and as great as they are, I would rather a Fallkniven.

I note 3G isn't on your list - please tell me it is a super steel too as I really like the Fallkniven and desperately want a decent steel (read exotic super steel).

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Originally Posted by earcutter

Sigh lol... but they said it was! I guess super steel is defined by those pushing a product lol!!

I would love to own a ZDP 189, but in my budget, that means Spyderco and as great as they are, I would rather a Fallkniven.

I note 3G isn't on your list - please tell me it is a super steel too as I really like the Fallkniven and desperately want a decent steel (read exotic super steel).

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They have to sell knives so they will tell people anything, how many of the buyers know anything about steel? Most people are concerned if the knife cuts, not with how sharp it can get, or how easy it is to sharpen.
Any one that really wants to try good knives with top notch steel , should buy a Japanese knife, and that does not include Shun, and the likes made from stamped VG-10 damask.

3G looks like pretty good steel from reviews.

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Originally Posted by mainaman

They have to sell knives so they will tell people anything, how many of the buyers know anything about steel? Most people are concerned if the knife cuts, not with how sharp it can get, or how easy it is to sharpen.
Any one that really wants to try good knives with top notch steel , should buy a Japanese knife, and that does not include Shun, and the likes made from stamped VG-10 damask.

3G looks like pretty good steel from reviews.

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Now that I have you lol, would you indulge me with one last question?

I don't care about rust, I'll take care of it - do you think white steel or blue would be better if I am chasing "the edge?" I note a few small fixed blades out of Japan that I could "sheath up" if it indeed would be better than 3g.

There is something romantic about a knife that will rust if not cared for to me and if the steel is better, no problem!

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Originally Posted by earcutter

They don't make em like they used to lol!!


Seriously though, that's too bad :(. Is it that you just have access to so much better now? Or do you think they just don't work on today's "supersteels" as I have heard so many say (or did you use it on your straights which would negate the whole supersteel thing)??

May I ask where you bought it?

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Maybe not :p

Just tried it on a razor. Not as comfortable as a Jnat.

Bought on eBay, cheap . Prolly a low grade stone. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by earcutter

Now that I have you lol, would you indulge me with one last question?

I don't care about rust, I'll take care of it - do you think white steel or blue would be better if I am chasing "the edge?" I note a few small fixed blades out of Japan that I could "sheath up" if it indeed would be better than 3g.

There is something romantic about a knife that will rust if not cared for to me and if the steel is better, no problem!

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Not answering for Stefan but Blue has some chromium so more stain resistant than white but all the hitachi steels make a good knife if the smith is good.

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

Maybe not :p

Just tried it on a razor. Not as comfortable as a Jnat.

Bought on eBay, cheap . Prolly a low grade stone. :shrug:




Not answering for Stefan but Blue has some chromium so more stain resistant than white but all the hitachi steels make a good knife if the smith is good.

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Yeah "they" say some blacks are better than others, and the vendor has a lot to do with the quality. But that you even rank it anywhere near a jnat, knowing your jnat collection is something!!

And thanks for the steel recommendation. Maybe i should look into that some more.

Oh I don't rank my ark anywhere near a Jnat , more like an 8k . :p

I have blue & white knives the white stains easy, the blue less so.