Great info guys thanks alot. Wat u think would be the best way to start off developing the skills to grind. Anyone here know Wat is a good start off grinder that would be available to get my hands on. Nothing to break the bank. thats also good enough to start as a hobby like someone said earlier. I might not like the idea or have the skill to grind for a living. I do have a full time job as a fishmonger and I handle knives but that doesn't mean I good at grinding. Lol