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I checked out georgetown and the ridges inside dont look like much. Then dirty bird and i see 3 different sizes. On estesy i see lots of places that make them for around 50 bucks.
What scuttle maker did you buy from and what would you change or buy from next?
Thinking insides need to be 4x2. Whats your opinion on size?
BTW, im not looking for something to hold soap puck. Just lather in. Wanting to try this warm lather as im finding myself bowl lathering lately.
Years ago I bought a scuttle to try out making warm lather. From that experience 4 inches wide and 2 inches deep seems fine and the ridges do not have to be very high either. A large water reservoir is always helpful in keeping that lather warm. While mine worked just fine it now collects dust.
Bob
I went with a Dirtybird 1.5 with internal grooves. I would not change a thing, I love it.
Im liking the idea of the vertical lines inside. Just seems that when building lather I go round and round on the area where the bottom meets the sides. So vertical lines in that area seems like the way to go. I have a bowl with round ridges/circles on the bottom and it dont work to well if you just go in circles.
I did look at the dirty bird 1.5 it looked plenty big. But the capacity of 30oz of water seemed a bit much. Guess it would stay hot longer. Id offer to buy yours bob but we would have that same issue. Shipping country to country.
SRD has some too but no vertical ridges. Great price though.
Jerry, I like my SRD scuttle. Yes it doesn't have ridges, but is a quality product. And in my opinion, does it's job just fine
I'm currently using a Georgetown . It's 4x2 reservoir is about the right size for me. As you can see the ridges on the side are smaller than the ones on the bottom but aides in making quicker lather ( depending on the soap & brush I'm using ). However, my SRD scuttle makes warmer lather (due to more water volume ) but doesn't have ridges, therefore, doesn't make lather as well. ( or may just be me )
Dang photo is sideways !
I tend to use very large and floppy brushes, so I ended up using 4 3/4 x 2 1/2 size bowl. Anything less feels too clogged to me.
You can use a 2 part epoxy to put ridges in any scuttle to meet your needs. I have a Georgetown scuttle, but the very best I have ever used was the one I can't sell or pronounce, mint starts with a SWK absolutely a tank and perfect for scuttle use.
I like bob don't use a scuttle any more. Tc
I started out with a Georgetown when they first started making scuttles. It was a beautiful piece unfortunately it did not hold enough water and failed to keep the brush warm for a shave. Then I got a Schwartzawhatyoucall it. it's the best scuttle money can buy bar none. Unfortunately I broke the handle so it got retired. Then I got a Moss scuttle special anniversary edition which is slate grey and used that for years. It doesn't have ridges in the bottom however it has a roughened surface which does the same thing.These days I use a Schwartzawhatyoucallit again and still think it's the cat's meow in scuttles.
Like others I face lather and use the scuttle only to keep the brush/lather warm.
Thanks Nelson, I couldn't remember that it's a Shcwartzawhatyoucallit . I will say this if I was going to use one again that's the one, there is none better. Now the Georgetown Pottery I had was the G20 so it had a much larger reservoir. Tc
Bought a Robert Becker a few years ago (not sure if they are still available) and the price was very reasonable. I really like it on cold winter days, warm lather will spoil you when it turns cold.........
What are the opinions on the dirty bird pottery scuttles?
I really like my Dirty Bird scuttle. However, I tend to face lather and more frequently use my Dirty Bird brush scuttle as it takes up less space. However, the XL Dirty Bird scuttle will warm the lather more than the brush scuttle because it holds much more water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robini
I have tried a bunch of scuttles from Moss to Schwarzweisskeramik. The three I keep are a Dirty Bird, Georgetown G20 and Large Schwarzweisskeramik (white, Black, Ceramic) most of the etsy versions I tried looked great but they did not hold enough water to stay hot through three passes. The three I have do. The Moss is another exceptional scuttle that will keep lather warm and can be made to your specifics. For the ridges? smooth works but even the slightest pattern will greatly enhance the lather building. The bumps or ridges do not need to be excessive to add air to your lathering efforts. The smaller the space for the brush, the harder it is to make lather but the warmer your brush will stay.
sorry for rambling, really thinking about lunch.
Lot of great info guys. Thanks. Ill do some looking atound some more. The whatyacallit sound enteresting. But if i got the srd and some epoxy... might be a cheap way out. Who knows. Still enterested in what others have to say and use.
I looked at the Schwarztamacallit and although I liked it a lot it is almost twice as much as the others and the shipping is 18 Euros. I have the George Pottery scuttle and I use that the most. I also have a Dirty Bird Brush Scuttle and although I used it quite a bit I have left it in California at my daughters place in California until I can pick it up. The George Pottery scuttle gets pretty heavy when full so I attached some stickable felt pads on the bottom so don't scratch the bathroom countertop. Good luck in your search.
Mike
Mike
I use the schwarzweisskeramik XL scuttle for bowl lathering. It works great, keeps things warm just using the water from my tap through 3 passes. Making the lather and inhaling the scent of the soap while you prep to shave is a true delight. Then when you pull the brush out for that third pass and it hits your face with the warm goodness, you can not help but smile ..
The little extra reservoir that you use to fill the basin is nice to hold a brush or a DE razor also.
What I would change is nothing really of the scuttles fault, but more things to keep in mind. Seeing it is so large, it actually is a bit cumbersome when using the standard sized bathroom sink. It fits in just fine, you just need to keep in mind what you are doing when filling it as to be careful not to hit it against the faucet. Also to completely fill the reservoir you need to rock it a bit backward, again just something to keep in mind, so no day dreaming when you are filling this thing.
Also I do not like the appearance personally. It is large, so if I leave it out on my bathroom sink, like I do with other scuttles/bowls, it has a large foot print. So seeing it is so big it becomes a bit of a center piece to the room. This is all fine and dandy until my wife walks into the bathroom ... you get the idea.
The other scuttle I use is Wolf Ceramics. This one is more for face lathering as it is on the smaller side. It also does not keep the lather warm for the third pass. The appearance is great and for what it needs to do it does it well. The design has no lacquer on the bottom of the ceramic so it makes it easier to grip. Overall this scuttle is easy to grip and manipulate while shaving. The inside seems to build lather very quickly the ridges are done well. When I use the Simpson Chubby 2 brush it is difficult to bowl lather using this scuttle. There does not seem to be enough room for the brush and the lather. Price is also something to consider with this seeing it is not cheap for the size. What I would change is the size, if it were just a bit bigger this would be ideal.
Here is a quick photo of David and Goliath for your reference.
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Wow. That thing is huge!
They have 3 sizes. That's the largest. Of course even the small is still quite large and yes you really have to be careful handling it or it's really easy to break something on it (ask me how I know). With the large you really can't use it with the typical bathroom sink.
Mine is the "basic" and it's about 25% larger than my Moss Scuttle.
Gentlemen,
I started with the Moss scuttle and then swept through a lineup of other brands: Dirty Bird, Becker, Georgetown, and a few others I don't recall. Then I found the magical Schwarzweisskeramik scuttle.
After trying all three sizes, all of which I liked, I settled on the basic size, because it suited my needs perfectly, and it took less space on the shave den counter. It fits my needs perfectly. It is also quite handsome — matches my eyes — and useful.
After all these years, my Schwarzweisskeramik scuttle is a part of the shave den landscape.
What makes is so special? Better insulation properties keeping water/lather warmer longer? Something else?
@Obie
So what size is the lather cup in the basic? All the pics i see i havent notuced any ridges or anything inside it. Or am i confused? Wouldnt be the first time.
Well anyone that has this one can answer of corse. Im really leaning towards this one. Hell, if its good enough for the biggest soap/lather man on the forum, its good enough for this old truck driver.:rofl2:
Ridges or no, really making lather is up to the maker, but it's inside surface is rough. And mostly the smaller sizes are just to keep your brush warm, the lathering us done on the face.
What I found is building the lather in the bowl, is ok, but hey I like to face lather. Tc
Thanks forcthe reply TC. I normally face lather but recently ive found a lot of samples ariving on my door step. Itvso much easier to put a finger full in the bottom of my lather bowl and work it into a lather. So lately have been bowl lathering. Although i still work it on the face a bit too as i enjoy the scrubby on the face.
So rough texture? Guessing thats good enough. As long as its not a smooth as glass finish that you find on glazed pottery. Thats what i was afraid of.
Not to find out if the opening is 4" or abouts. A 3" opening is just not big enough for me. Too bad the measurements on the site are only the total outside of tall and width.
I've yet to try a scuttle. Not a lot of room on the pedastal sink with no counter. With my luck it would end up going flying across the room in short order.
Do a Google search for Georgetown Pottery scuttle seconds. They have some there at really attractive prices.
Pete <:-}
Thanks Pete.
The g20 for 40 bucks. That 15 bucks off. Not a bad deal. Now i got to think all over again. Burning up brain cells left and right today. Althought i think i like the look of the swk better.
Jerry I'll throw another monkey wrench at ya, one of the best lathering bowls I Ever used,(when I tried bowl lathering) was a 4$ 3 legged rough texture plastic salsa bowl from Wal Mart. But for keeping my brush warm, I still say the best Schwartzimacallit. Tc
By the way you if I ever go back to a scuttle and I have 3 here already( 2 Georgetown pottery and a Moss) I'll still order another SWK, but I'll get to be without a handle, I broke mine and then let a friend have it and I guess he still likes it. One of the GTP has a broken handle too, so I won't have handles any more. Tc
Yep. Id say stay away from handles TC. Sounds like your a bit rough on them. Still thinking the SWK is my choice at this time. Damn, its a bowl! Why is it so hard to deciede.
I think the key is it is so well designed. If you make lather in the scuttle you can easily make a mountain really fast. Really all the things you would want in a scuttle (if you custom designed one yourself) this baby has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robini
Bye the way both my Schwartzy scuttles have circular ridges in the bottom.
Gasman, Buy several and sell the ones you don't like on the forum!!!
No problem. Glad too. Send me your C.C. number via PM. :)
:roflmao :roflmao
Now you guys have me looking at these Shwartzmacallits too
Gentlemen,
What makes a good scuttle is not only the construction, but also the size of the water tank, the thickness of the walls, and a few other factors. Schwarzweisskeramik has all of these. Oh, also ridges on the bottom of the lather bowl. What's more, this is a really good looking scuttle. For one who bowl lathers these days, and loves warm lather, this scuttle is pure heaven. By the way, in the coming months I will do an interview with Onsgar for my Conversations with Obie.
Check is in the mail!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gasman
Couldnt wait for your check to arive in the mail and clear the bank so....
Just paid 67euros/80 bucks for th3 basic in white Swart..whatyoucallit.ha.
I just figured id buy once and get a good one. Ok, ill try to buy only one.
Thanks for all the great help gentlemen. Will post up a pic when it arives. I know that the wife like white so maybe she wont try to hide it in a drawer or something this way. Id have rather got black but swmbo's happyness must be concidered sence we share the bathroom.
Congrats! Looking forward to your thoughts once you receive and get a chance to use it.
Well now you won't have to buy another, there is none better, I wish it would have been my first, But then again I wish I would have learned to like scuttle usage. TcQuote:
Originally Posted by Gasman
Now i even feel better. Ive become an enabler! Someone else bought one two becuse he was not smart enough or maybe too smart and followed along my thread to closely. Its nice to be on this side of the enabling for once. :)
Got it in the mail today. Found a soap cup in the box too and I hadn't ordered it. Unwrapped everything and found a note inside with the scuttle saying that because of the little blue dot in the bottom of the scuttle, he thru in a soap cup and hopes that will make up for it. The dot is not a big deal. Its only one. But it was nice of him to throw in the soap cup for the dot. Going to give it a try in a few minutes. Just wanted to share what I got and to show a couple pics. And to thank you all for the help in figuring out which one to buy.
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The dot is in the outer ring in the bottom. And the white is more of a cream color. Not that I care but if someone else was thinking of ordering the white, its not really white.
Thanks all!
