Question about a Thiers Issard Le Grelot

[cxhamilton]

I'm interested in the Thiers Issard Le Grelot Straight Razor 6/8", Ebony Wood Handle here:

Thiers Issard Le Grelot Straight Razor 6/8", Ebony Wood Handle | Fendrihan Shaving Store

My question is: what is the difference (if any) between a Thiers Issard Le Grelot with the "Le Grelot" trademark on the tang versus the "Thiers Issard" trademark?

I'm waiting for a response from Fendrihan, but I thought I'd ask here as well.

[Martin103]

Thiers Issard bought the company Le Grelot, and they used the remaining razor blanks to make razors. That said a razor with Le grelot trademark and Thiers Issard would be that it was made from a blank from Le Grelot. The one pictures in the link you provided doesnt seem to me to be one of them.

A Thiers Issard, Le Grelot would look like this one.

[JimmyHAD]

Welcome to SRP. As Martin said, TI bought Le Grelot and ran through the remaining blade blanks harvested when they took over the company. I am not sure but I would bet that the TI stamped razors, referred to as Le Grolet, are either blanks that weren't stamped, or maybe the style of blade that LG made. Not sure though.

[OCDshaver]

I have a P.Hospital Le Grelot and a new TI Spartacus. I can say that you won't be disappointed in either one.

[cxhamilton]

...are either blanks that weren't stamped, or maybe the style of blade that LG made. Not sure though.

Therein lies the crux of my dilemma. I've been lurking for a while and I've learned enough to know that you cannot go wrong with a TI. There's another TI that I have my eye on and I was trying to provide justification to push me in one direction or another. I tend to fall victim to paralysis by analysis. I'll see what Fendrihan says and report back.

Regardless, thanks for the welcome.

[cxhamilton]

From: Fendrihan.com Customer Service

Hello,

The blade is a Le Grelot.
Le Grelot name is owned by Thiers Issard.
The blade is not a historical Le Grelot, with the aforementioned name on
it. That stock of blades has been exhausted about 2 years ago.

All Le Grelot are new forgings now.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
John M.

For the record, here is the other TI that I have my eyes on:

Thiers Issard Sheep and Wolf Straight Razor 6/8", Walnut Handle

[BobH]

I believe the one that you are looking at is brand new production as it says in the description that it is full hollow ground singing razor. I believe the original P. Hospital Le Grelot razors were a heavier than full hollow grind. Somebody with more knowledge of this brand of razor might be able to clarify that. I have to say that the one linked to is a very nice looking razor, it would tempt me.

Bob

There you go. A day late and a dollar short in my answer.

[Martin103]

From: Fendrihan.com Customer Service

Hello,

The blade is a Le Grelot.
Le Grelot name is owned by Thiers Issard.
The blade is not a historical Le Grelot, with the aforementioned name on
it. That stock of blades has been exhausted about 2 years ago.

All Le Grelot are new forgings now.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
John M.

So howcome the blade doesnt say Le Grelot?

[OCDshaver]

I believe the one that you are looking at is brand new production as it says in the description that it is full hollow ground singing razor. I believe the original P. Hospital Le Grelot razors were a heavier than full hollow grind. Somebody with more knowledge of this brand of razor might be able to clarify that. I have to say that the one linked to is a very nice looking razor, it would tempt me.

Bob

There you go. A day late and a dollar short in my answer.

My P. Hospital is definitely a heavier grind than full hollow. Don't ask me to classify it or verify that this was standard on all Le Grelots but it has more heft to it than a standard full hollow. I really like a heavier grind even if its just a little extra. To me, the shaves seem smoother. And the TI Spartacus that I have is classified as half hollow. Both are wonderful razors.

[cxhamilton]

Based on John's comments: I'm assuming that this is a new TI with a Le Grelot "style" blade that is based on the original Le Grelot stamped blades that TI acquired.