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Hello all!
I bought a razor from ebay, and kept it a secret from a friend. Then I showed it to him because I was really like wanting to be like 'LOOK WHAT I GOT!'
Sadly he told me a lot of Henckels where counterfeited/faked in China so I wanted to upload the pics here and see if you know if these are counterfeit yes or no.
So what do you guys think? Please help!
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If its a fake, I have the same fake - and love the shaves. Its identical, right down to the wear or lack of edge extending below the shoulder. We'll both have to raise that shoulder to hone well.
A friend that *loves* his Friodur couldn't wait to hear how I liked the shave. Partially to get his goat, I said: 'its boring'. A few lines down, I added - in all the right ways. Its easy to hone, easy to shave with, gives a good shave even when the edge is fading. Its reliable as a brick when it comes to giving a good shave.
So your saying my razor looks exactly like yours does? Could you have pics. I could if I wanted not accept it in front of my door, so it gets send back. The only question is, what seller sold it to you, could you pm me his name? I would like to know from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinklather
Thanks a lot if you can help me!
That's no fake everything about it is right, now the Chinese can't even get the finish right on their own Gold Dollars so how on earth are they going to replicate that double stabilizer the perfect tang stamps the scales plus the inlays and the spine etching plus the perfect blade symmetry, it's not beyond a really good faker but that kind of level of work to get it right certainly wouldn't be worth a cheap labour Chinese sweat shops effort, to big a project and outlay to try and produce such a high end razor in my opinion.
Though it happened to Pinklather, he got such a fake in his hands it seems. That's the problem if it is a really good fake... Well who knows. A friend told me the only way to know is to shave. But if this one is exactly the same as Pink-Lathers and the from the same seller well...Quote:
Originally Posted by celticcrusader
I don't know it looks perfect indeed.... But damn I'm at a loss.
I see no reason to think that yours is a fake. For the money it would cost to make such a high quality fake I can't see it being done. I won't ask what you paid for it unless you want to pm me with it but if it's on par then you shouldn't have paid too much. Def not a gold dollar etc quality.
You people worry too much. IF there were so many Chinese faked out Henckles, there would be a club here on SRP called "Fee Fie Faux Frioudur!"
We have never seen a true fake of any kind on this forum. The fact is, to be economically viable they would have to sell tens of thousands of them and that ain't gonna happen.
I'll take it for 5 bucks, pm me for my address thanks. :p
This is a perfectly fine Henckels, I have honed a ton of those, they come from Japan and are super fine shavers.
With all due respect your friend has more to learn about razors it seems.
Not even a remote chance that is a fake. Counterfeiting brand name razors would be a losing proposition in short order.
The real counterfeiters are busy with bogus Habana cigars, brand name sneakers, and the "new" U.S. hundred dollar bill.
If it was a fake they did a great job. Also would it be a one off fake ? I mean you'd see a slue of like razors on the bay and the internet. Looks like the real Mc'Coy to me too.
If it's a fake you should feel privileged to have such a rare and beautiful razor.
I have one that is almost exactly like it down to the same spine pattern. Everything that I can see looks right.
I have seven Friodurs and they all shave well and are easy to maintain. Most days, I shave with a 5/8 Friodur 70 1/2 round point. I love the fact that they shave well and that I need not continuously concern myself about possibly finding stains and rust despite wiping, drying, and oiling my carbon steel razor, if I missed water getting in between the scales. No worry about gold wash and etchings being irreparably damaged by water. Yes, I take great care to never let water get in between the scales of my razors while shaving or honing, even with my Friodurs.
I have even more carbon steel razors which I like and use but, consider the average appearance of vintage Friodurs and the average appearance of vintage carbon steel razors seen in the market place.
Good luck, nice razor.
Looks real to me.
You have to be careful still because stainless steel does not mean no rust at all ever. It takes a lot more for stainless to rust compared to carbon, but I have seen rusty Friodurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheajohnw
Your "friend" was doing some jealous rationalizing.
Just exactly where does your friend gain his knowledge from? I will say the Henckels has kitchen knives produced in Germany, Spain and China. I could see fake Chinese made Henckels branded kitchen knives but doubt that they would go to the trouble to fake a straight razor. As other have said yours looks very nice and appears to be the real deal.
Bob
What about this one currently for sale? The logo is off and the box looks like other Chinese ones I have seen...
Rasoir Coupe Choux J A Henckels Solingen | eBay
Did your "friend" offer to spare you the trouble of dealing with a "fake" and take it off your hands, op?Quote:
Originally Posted by eod7
Henckels used the single man symbol to signify Henckels made products "not" made in Germany but elsewhere. I was unaware that they may or may not have produced straight razors in a country other than Germany. I can read the stampings on the tang either. Be interesting to find the answer to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelS
Bob
I recently saw one on e-Bay where the scales appeared lighter in color, had the twins, but no Friodur inlaid. The back side of the shank had no stamp and was bare. The red box and plastic sleave looked OK. A lunch box or franken razor? I passed.
Remember: "It can alway be make cheaper somewhere else".
Your friend is ridiculous no offense the finish on that and stamping cant even be achieved by the Chinese manufacturers. I have never seen a fake henckels I think your friend is just jealous so gave you a load of crap lol looks great to me.
His post meant that it's not a fake. His isn't either.Quote:
Originally Posted by meemai
It's amazing, for all the allegations of fake Henckels razors, I don't know of anyone who has actually gotten a fake.
Man that's a sweet blade. Incoming PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by meemai
Would you mind explaining to me what you mean by that. What area are you referring to specifically?Quote:
Originally Posted by pinklather
