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Hi all!
Need some advice on what i bought while on holiday in antique shops in UK.
The first i bought is a Mappin & Webb "Trustworthy", royal cutlery works razor.
It looks like ivory scales.
The second i got today.
it looks like bull horn scales, barbers notch point with "Sheffield" and a sword/dagger stamped on the tang.
Any idea on the age and make of both?
Many thanks!
Gabe
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I know it is made in Sheffield
Yes, I'd say the one made by Mappin and Webb has ivory scales. Since both razors say only Sheffield and not Sheffield England they are both pre 1890/91. No clue which maker the sword belongs to. Nice finds, congrats.
Bob
Yup - definitely M&W...good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...tml#post736572Quote:
barbers notch point with "Sheffield" and a sword/dagger stamped on the tang.
STRAZORS.com - all about classic razors - Joseph Allen & Sons, Sheffield.
Here are a couple more places to check for str8 razor info;
Straight Razor Manufacturers and Dates of Operation
Information Links
Nice finds. I never have any luck with flea markets or antique shops.
Thank you so much!
I will clean them up and frame them, dont think i could use them.
You all have been very helpful!
Take care all!
Gabe ;)
I think I just answered this question in your member introduction or I'm having deja vu or something.
I think it is a Joseph Allen & Sons "Original Dagger Razor"
Made sometime between 1864 and 1891.
And you really should learn to shave with them, you won't regret it.
NO! Don't frame them! Get them cleaned up, honed and shave with them! You'll be glad you did. Best shave you'll ever have. Your face will thank you for it.
Hi CrisWilson and thank you!
I started collecting about 3 month back.
Started with a shavette, used it about 10 times.
I then got my first shave with a straight razor, loved it!
I have now 8 in total but the two i have posted here which you good ppl have been kind to help me with i wont use, they too good to use and too old.
Just the fact of having straight razors from maybe over 100 years is just mind blowing!
Thank you sooo much!
All the best
Gabe
:)
Hi Wayne!
I wish i could use, would love to but the Mappin & Webb has a crack in one of the scales right at the pin.
The Joseph Allen & Sons razor has loose scales.
I would be too frightened to send them somewhere for repair.
They both need a lot of work on the edge.
All of that can be repaired, many of us, shave daily with razor of that age or older. As said, they are shavers and crying out to be used.
Nice find, welcome to the forum.
There were a lot of great links in this thread. Thanks guys.
Thanks again guys! Really chuffed with my find and your help.
Now if i do decided to get them repaired, honned and cleaned up, any recomondations?
I love my Mappin & Webb, restore it and use it please :D
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Hi and thanks Bongo!
Forgot to say the pricing.
The Mappin & Webb cost £25 and the other was £14
Celticcrusader (jamie) does pretty nice work, he is in Wales.
thanks Ed! :bow:bow:bow:bow
You are welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GabrielMartin
Sorry to ask again chaps but going back to the razor with the dagger on tang, what do you think it looks like the scales are made from?
Could J. Beardshaw & Sons made it? I see they, like Joseph Allen & Sons also have a dagger/sword stamped on tang?
I'm confused lol
Best regards,
Gabe
Joseph Allen has the dagger. Beardshaw has a sword. The pommel and tangs are different between the two weapons; and the razors as well.
It's difficult to tell the scale type from the picture, but my guess would be celluloid. If you search this site for "scale identification" there are some threads on how to identify the different materials using a hot needle on the inside of the scale.
Awesome! Your knowledge is never ending, there is always an answer here! Thank you! ;)
Ok, here is a close up of one of the ends of the scales in question. Note it has a split, i can see grain along with "164" scratched onto it. Attachment 208763
Also a letter "A" scratched just above the pin.
There are 3 more numbers on the other side.
Attachment 208767 Hopefully you can see it better here.
There are some old threads on SRP that talk about how barbers may have individually marked their razors in the shop, to keep they out of others hands.
Use the advanced search function(not the GOOGLE box) & read about this.
That is horn. Can be repaired.
I agree with sharptonn, that is horn, which is a good thing.
Thanks again guys! Hope you had a good weekend and a good week ahead.
Take care
Regards
Gabe
Awesome! Cant thank you guys enough! :)
