wedge or microtome

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12-18-2015, 11:57 PM
Oustoura

wedge or microtome

Hi guys,

Here a blade which confuse me. I can't decide if it's a wedge kind of blade or a microtome?

When I look to each side there is no difference but when I look at the point it looks like a microtome, but still not sure that's why I want to ask what you think.

Some,pictures, ( I'm sorry I'm on my phone and I can not upload the pics on SRP )

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http://i.hizliresim.com/G2LG4Z.jpg

http://i.hizliresim.com/7XR1PL.jpg

http://i.hizliresim.com/9qkrEZ.jpg

http://i.hizliresim.com/MgqBWM.jpg

Thanks by advance
12-19-2015, 12:05 AM
tintin

i would say wedge. it looks symmetrical and besides microtomes often have metal scales for sterilization. JMHO
12-19-2015, 12:08 AM
RezDog

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My eye says microtome. It looks hollowed on one side but not the other, and not very hollowed either.
12-19-2015, 12:18 AM
Oustoura

I really can't decide. I will hone it Sunday. But first I put it on a plate surface and each side touch well, I didn't see any difference.

Btw do you have any tips to hone a microtome if it's the case?
12-19-2015, 12:18 AM
JimmyHAD

Check out post # 1, and post # 8 in this thread here for more pix to go by. :gl:
12-19-2015, 12:30 AM
sharptonn

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezDog

Attachment 221891
My eye says microtome. It looks hollowed on one side but not the other, and not very hollowed either.

I think it appears that way as the blade is leaning to one side, Rez. Tilt your head and look again. I say wedge. :D
12-19-2015, 12:32 AM
BobH

Sure hard to tell but looks like a wedge to me. Be interesting to see how this finally turns out.

Bob
12-19-2015, 12:38 AM
thebigspendur

I'd bet it's a wedge. On the Microtome one side would be straight. That's not what I'm seeing there.
12-19-2015, 12:43 AM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Check out post # 1, and post # 8 in this thread here for more pix to go by. :gl:

Thanks a lot
12-19-2015, 12:44 AM
RezDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I think it appears that way as the blade is leaning to one side, Rez. Tilt your head and look again. I say wedge. :D

Oh yeah! Imagine that my heads just crooked.
12-19-2015, 12:46 AM
Oustoura

Yes that's exactly this which confuse me. Even when I look I don't see really an asymmetry. But anyway it looks kind a bizarre. That's why I came here.
12-19-2015, 12:55 AM
Wirm

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Another image would help. It still looks a bit unsymetrical to me.

Attachment 221894
12-19-2015, 12:55 AM
sharptonn

It seems the scales are warped somewhat. It may have a slightly warped tang?
Seems there was a thread recently which mirrors this one?
12-19-2015, 01:08 AM
rhensley

I would say wedge. Wasn't the older blades done by hand. with that in mind they wouldn't be exactly alike. couldn't they be off by a few thousands.
12-19-2015, 07:43 AM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharptonn

It seems the scales are warped somewhat. It may have a slightly warped tang?
Seems there was a thread recently which mirrors this one?

scales are not original.
12-19-2015, 02:40 PM
Euclid440

How about a pic of the tang stamps?
12-19-2015, 05:17 PM
10Pups

Ummmm, holding a straight edge against the blade will give you your answer. Gap on both sides or not ?
12-19-2015, 06:32 PM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euclid440

How about a pic of the tang stamps?

i see just "empire" and not any other stamps.
12-19-2015, 08:45 PM
Magpie

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Personally, Judging by the overall fit and finish of that razor, I would go with Microtome.

Not ALL microtomes follow the asymmetrical grind pattern.

There is no reason not to think that a microtome wedge grind might not have a shallow to it.

Attachment 221955

For those interested, the info page that graphic comes from is here...

Dorn and Hart MicroEdge - Applications
12-19-2015, 09:08 PM
JSmith1983

My guess is near wedge. I looks to have a slight hollow on both sides. One way to find out is to give it a couple laps on a finishing stone and see where the stone marks. Edge and spine on both sides near wedge.
12-19-2015, 10:52 PM
Oustoura

Guys,

who say this is a wedge, they won.

i tried to hone it as a microtome, nothing but a big bevel. after recleaned it, tried as a wedge. it's coming to be ready to cut my arm hairs.

pictures will come when i finished. ;)
12-19-2015, 10:56 PM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magpie

Personally, Judging by the overall fit and finish of that razor, I would go with Microtome.

Not ALL microtomes follow the asymmetrical grind pattern.

There is no reason not to think that a microtome wedge grind might not have a shallow to it.

Attachment 221955

For those interested, the info page that graphic comes from is here...

Dorn and Hart MicroEdge - Applications

i don't really see the difference between the C and a normal wedge blade. :confused:
12-20-2015, 01:48 AM
Oustoura

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Here we go

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12-20-2015, 03:59 AM
nun2sharp

I know I am a little late, but it is a wedge, the symmetry is off on all of those old hand ground blades. Nothing unusual.
12-22-2015, 12:20 AM
Magpie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oustoura

i don't really see the difference between the C and a normal wedge blade. :confused:

Not much difference at all really! :beer1:
12-22-2015, 01:16 PM
engine46

I was going with wedge myself but we all know now!
12-24-2015, 11:51 AM
BeJay

Looks like those scales could use a little tweaking. Are they Bakelite type material?
08-16-2016, 11:31 PM
Oustoura

I was wondering if any if you guys found any other razors like this one (not microtome but wedge with asymmetry of each side).

I was talking with friend today and he showed me a new razor he found, a old one I think 19th century I don't remember the brand but it's made in UK or US (sorry didn't think to take pictures) the blade was looking full wedge but when I looked from the point there was an asymmetry like this razor I posted on top of the thread.

I don't know if it's kind of a mistake of the person who tried to restore it or it was like it is when it's made but to see an other razor like it makes me to think if there is some kind of blades not known.
08-17-2016, 01:40 AM
BeJay

If one side is hollow ground and the other is flat, I would assume that your friend has a microtome.
08-17-2016, 11:25 AM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeJay

If one side is hollow ground and the other is flat, I would assume that your friend has a microtome.

no it's not. the other side looks same as the other one. but when you look from point it seems assymetric.
08-18-2016, 01:59 PM
Slawman

Any history on who made razors with a microtome grind & when they made them?

Slawman
08-19-2016, 12:03 AM
Oustoura

Well I'm sure they are not microtome. There is nothing difference on each sides but on if I look to point of the blade I see an asymmetry.
08-19-2016, 03:43 AM
criswilson10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slawman

Any history on who made razors with a microtome grind & when they made them?

Slawman

Lots of companies made microtomes.
As for when they were made, I'm not sure when they started, but they are still being made today for biological sectioning.
08-19-2016, 05:17 AM
engine46

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I was doing some cleaning up & I came across this blade by John & Wm Ragg & it is definitely a microtome.

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08-20-2016, 07:53 PM
Oustoura

Quote:

Originally Posted by engine46

I was doing some cleaning up & I came across this blade by John & Wm Ragg & it is definitely a microtome.

Attachment 243468

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this one is a microtome, i agree. but the ones i talk about there is not any difference between each side. but only when i look to point as the last picture.

well i think they are restored badly before. :shrug:

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