Help with a filarmonica

Hello everyone,
I got this fili and I can't get any info on it
It says filarmonica 14 but is about 5/8 does that mean it is a reground?
There is no made in Spain etching on the tang
Thank you very much for any info Attachment 228652

The Filli 14 are usually close to 8/8 so my guess is yes it has been re-ground. Looks like a well done repair to me though. More pictures would help.

thank you very much for the input .
here are some more pictures to help.
and btw the razor doesn'tAttachment 228657Attachment 228658Attachment 228659Attachment 228660 sit flat on the hone the toe lifts up on one side, would you guys recommend rolling x strokes? or maybe something else ?

You will likely have to do some hone gymnastics to get that one honed up. It appears that the tang is wider than the spine, likely due to the regrind. If you are uncertain if your stroke is covering the entire edge you should put a little marker on it and do a few strokes. It is a good indicator. If you have not honed many razors it may be a good learning experience, but remember that if it is not working to put it away and come back to it. There is no value in grinding away for hours when things are not working.

That's a first generation pre 1950s with the incorrect second generation scales it's seen quite a few hones through the years definitely started it's life as a 8/8, the reverse side of the tang as no country of manufacture this is a give away to the date. Pre-1950 versions will NOT have "FABRICACION ESPAÑOLA / MADE IN SPAIN" stamped on the rear of the tang, also the vertical 14 with the curved lettering is another give away that model is the especial, it once looked like this one here's mine with a solid metal Lyre inlay with celluloid scales.

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wow thanks you guys this is exactly the info i was looking for .
i would start honing it , will definitely start with a marker test ans see from there .
will post the results :)

OK to update I tried setting the bevel with a 1k, but couldn't get the middle part sharp even though the marker test with rolling x stroke showed the ink being taking off all along the edge
I think I just gave up to early will try again today

Patience and determination! Good luck!

Any razor that has seen that much work is not merely honing, it is restoration work. You are building and shaping a bevel where none existed. It may take a lot of time or it may go relatively simple. When you start with a new or previously honed razor you are typically rebuilding a bevel, some of the material has already been removed. Glad to hear you put it aside. Stuff like that I rarely do all in one sitting.

thank you guys very much for the info.
for an update i returned to the stone today and did countless rolling x stroke ,checked a couple of times with the marker and it shows that the stone is hitting the whole edge , the heel and the toe are cutting arm hair easily but the middle part is still completely dull !!
i am baffled , i am not using tape,
any suggestions ? should i just continue with rolling x or maybe change tactics .
any help would be awesome :)

This is where experience comes into play. With all that missing blade and who knows what else the geometry is all out of whack. You should be using tape to bring it in line. The middle is not being honed despite what the marker is telling you. I would use 2 layers of tape and try some circles and see what it feels like. Perhaps apply a little pressure to the middle of the blade. Not to insult you in anyway. I think this is a bit above your skill level at this point. Not an ideal blade to start out with. Good luck.

no insult taken :) i thought as much as i started, i will try with some tape today and see if i get lucky

OK after placing 2 layers of tape I was able to make the entire blade sharp and had a nice shave with it today
Thank you all for the help