I have a Fram Elite that I bought at a local antique store. No rust, so I didn't have to worry about unpinning it. Some staining. No chips.

I'm in the process of getting it back to shave ready. But I bought a Black Demon off eBay. Again, no chips. Some staining. I had to take it apart because of rust, but it was easy to put it back together using MicroFastener.com/'sews.

And that thing is sharpening up quick. I guess I could chalk it up to improving honing skills, but I stil can't help but wonder what the reputation of Fram's are. I've see very little talk about them here.