#1 - this razor came to me from my pop. One side "TAYLOR WITNESS SHEFFIELD', otherside "Listers Patent No 14338"

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#2 - got this one locally, can't find too much on it.

One side "Made in SOLINGEN, Germany", "ACCIAIO MARTELLATO GARANTIA", "8008"
Spine: "EXTRA GERMAN HOLLOW GROUND"

Otherside

"CALIDAD DE GARANTIA"
Spine: "ACIER SUPERIEUR AIMANTE"

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Looking for time period or year on both and a bit more info in general on the second

Thanks in advance