Stub Tail I.D

[JOB15]

Thought I'd post to try and beef up the forum a bit

This razor has been buggin me for the last week.

I cannot find the maker although it looks familiar to me some how & has a funny tail.

[Voidmonster]

I remember this mark coming up before (and maybe even on this razor), but I don't recall any progress being made on figuring out whose mark it is.

I feel pretty certain the point of the blade has been heavily modified. The scales are absolutely not original.

My guess is that it's from the mid-to-late 1700's.

You could try contacting the Cutler's Company. Joan Unwin, their archivist, is incredibly helpful!

https://www.cutlers-hallamshire.org.uk/

If you do, please report back!

[JOB15]

Thanks Zak.
Not sure if I had posted before, I thought it was the first time I laid eyes on it. I dont even know how it came into my possession.
Yeh the blade is knackered, worn and fashioned into a pen knife.
It looks like a fox to me on the tang or my imagination.
I may well contact them.
Cheers.

[Geezer]

FWW, I have a Spur P of the same vintage.
Similar to it.
~Richard

[Voidmonster]

Thanks Zak.
Not sure if I had posted before, I thought it was the first time I laid eyes on it. I dont even know how it came into my possession.
Yeh the blade is knackered, worn and fashioned into a pen knife.
It looks like a fox to me on the tang or my imagination.
I may well contact them.
Cheers.

Like Richard says, it's a spur. It might be Richard's that I'm remembering seeing before.

Many of the various odd symbols and printers marks that were used on cutlery at the time appear in more than one cutler's mark, since they were mostly making them out existing bits. The spur, though, only appears once in Gales & Martin (and not at all in the earlier Sketchley's), and it's somewhat different from the mark on these razors -- it's a semicircle with a cross on top. That by itself doesn't mean that much. Many of the Gales & Martin marks are misprinted in small and large ways versus what was actually stamped into steel. However, the mark in G&M has no associated letters.

[JOB15]

I did try the link you gave me.
See what they say.....

They are a handy resource. I am collecting more and more reference books.
Knowledge is power

[Voidmonster]

I'm really curious what turns up!

[JOB15]

I heard back today from Cutlers Co. So fast and on a Sunday.
Joan Unwin is extremely helpful as you said.

This was her reply : Hello, thank you for your enquiry. the mark looks badly struck or very worn, but I would suggest it is 'KROPP'
This is the photo she attached:



Personally I don't see it as a Kropp .. Although the more I look... Could well be a double "P"

[Voidmonster]

Hrm.

Yeah, I don't think that's KROPP. But that also means it's almost certainly not a Sheffield razor. My next guess would be Swedish.

[JOB15]

I will keep my eyes peeled.. and have another butchers at, "Trademarks on base metals tableware"