Thread: Thinnest razor in production right now?

So, I've been reading and exchanging knowledge on razors with some other straight razor shavers.

We've so far discussed on the ground, and it seems that modern-production razors are not as ground (or "thin") as some vintage razors. I've been told that even modern day (i.e. current production) "singing" TIs and DOVOs are actually closer to a "half hollow" and that the "extra hollow" or "singing hollow" titles are only marketing.

Is this true?

I don't have a lot of knowledge on straight razors because I've never experienced shaving with a vintage razor. I've only had modern day DOVOs and Bokers, and I'd like to know if the vintage extra hollow stuff are actually thinner blades than modern day DOVOs, Bokers, TIs, etc.

I'd also like to know which is the thinnest razor in production right now? TI Evide Sonnant? DOVO Prima Klang?

Thanks for any info,
Kind regards,
Mike

How many razors a year do need to consider it a production razor?

Originally Posted by 32t

How many razors a year do need to consider it a production razor?

:O I think as long as it's not discontinued by the manufacturer. I'm just thinking about, which is the thinnest blade by either TI, Dovo, Wacker, or Boker, etc.

Thanks,
Mike

There is some makers producing some very fine grinds. I have not had a modern TI hollow blade, I do have a Dovo modern Bismarck, and it’s thin, I have had thinner vintage blades, but those were exceptional vintage blades. I have a lot of Henckels razors that run from definitely full hollow to quarter hollow depending on the model. I’d say those claims are not completely true, sort of a half truth

Originally Posted by RezDog

There is some makers producing some very fine grinds. I have not had a modern TI hollow blade, I do have a Dovo modern Bismarck, and it’s thin, I have had thinner vintage blades, but those were exceptional vintage blades. I have a lot of Henckels razors that run from definitely full hollow to quarter hollow depending on the model. I’d say those claims are not completely true, sort of a half truth

DOVO Bismarck, then? I think I'll add it to my shopping list. Maybe it's worth a try.

Anyway, how does it compare in shaving comfort vs vintage blades?

Thanks a lot,
Kind regards,
Mike

Originally Posted by CoffeeAddict24

DOVO Bismarck, then? I think I'll add it to my shopping list. Maybe it's worth a try.

Anyway, how does it compare in shaving comfort vs vintage blades?

Thanks a lot



Kind regards,
Mike

Modern holds no candle to vintage. The older the better, IMHO.

Originally Posted by outback

Modern holds no candle to vintage. The older the better, IMHO.

So I've read. But I think I'll stick to modern razors for a while. Later on I'd like to get either a Filarmonica or W&B.

Thank you,
Kind regards,
Mike

Originally Posted by CoffeeAddict24

So, I've been reading and exchanging knowledge on razors with some other straight razor shavers.

We've so far discussed on the ground, and it seems that modern-production razors are not as ground (or "thin") as some vintage razors. I've been told that even modern day (i.e. current production) "singing" TIs and DOVOs are actually closer to a "half hollow" and that the "extra hollow" or "singing hollow" titles are only marketing.

Is this true?


I'd also like to know which is the thinnest razor in production right now? TI Evide Sonnant? DOVO Prima Klang?

Unfortunately this is absolutely true. The real razor grinders that had mastered their handcraft belong to a dying species. The razors are not thin enough, the bellies and the area to the edge are wavy, thickness of spine is uneven. And this applies to most of the still existing companies. Forget the "evide sonnant" - absolutely nothing is singing on that razor. Thick as an axe - like my old master would say. Dovos are not much better nowadays. There are two companies in Solingen that still do the handcraft in the old way with experienced and skillfull grinders. Wacker and Revisor. If you order a full hollow razor here, you will get one and not an axe with an absolute perfect gold etching "full hollow ground".
Regards Peter

I still vote for Victor.
American made!

Originally Posted by hatzicho

Unfortunately this is absolutely true. The real razor grinders that had mastered their handcraft belong to a dying species. The razors are not thin enough, the bellies and the area to the edge are wavy, thickness of spine is uneven. And this applies to most of the still existing companies. Forget the "evide sonnant" - absolutely nothing is singing on that razor. Thick as an axe - like my old master would say. Dovos are not much better nowadays. There are two companies in Solingen that still do the handcraft in the old way with experienced and skillfull grinders. Wacker and Revisor. If you order a full hollow razor here, you will get one and not an axe with an absolute perfect gold etching "full hollow ground".
Regards Peter

Peter, I’ve always thought that if we could go back in time to the great days of Filarmonica, Sistrum, Dreifus, Peres, Heljestrand, and many other great hollow grind makers, and look into their shops, we would find someone that looked like our grandmother, with Coke bottle glasses, smoking unfiltered cigarettes and knocking out Filarmonicas, Bartmanns, Dorkos, and Heljestrands one after another for 40 years until she retired!

I have a reason for saying this. I used to rebuild Harley Davidson engines in a past life, and they had a peculiar two-part flywheel that served as the crankshaft, and it required that both halves be trued to each other. It took me and my friends 30 minutes at best and sometimes an hour or over to assemble one of these motorcycle crankshafts. Well we went on a tour of the Harley Davidson factory, and saw, yes, your mother, trueing these assemblies on the factory production line. She had a copper hammer, a truing stand, and a wrench. ‘Whack, whack, a pull on the wrench, and she did in one minute what took us 60x as long to do. That’s because that’s all she did every day and she was so much better at it than we were it wasn’t even funny.

Practice makes perfect.