This Old Razor

I was in a shop today and came apon this big old wedge I had never herd of. But for 5$ I picked it up its a K.Muller,Stuttgart thats all it says and I have turned up nothing in searches. Scales are horn blade looked 19th cent maybe and to have been cleaned before came with half of a coffin box.http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...100_1813-1.jpgIt has less frown than the hone wear shows. Maybe worth cleaning up also got a Key Stone with Blued spine/tang for 5 too.Anyone have anything on this? Maybe a date circa estamation? (the muller)

Matt

You're looking at 1860s or so. This blade is in very bad shape. The frown is pretty much a killer in combination with the spine wear. If it was only a frown there may have been a chance to restore it. It would have to be reground to bring it back into serviceable condition. :cry:

Karl Muller and Paul Schmidt were the founders of "Muller&Schmidt" company. The company located at Solingen.
The company works since 1896 till our days. They have dealt in all types of cutlery.
There is only this K.Muller, but why on edge Stuttgart, instead of Solingen.

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Originally Posted by Kenrup

You're looking at 1860s or so. This blade is in very bad shape. The frown is pretty much a killer in combination with the spine wear. If it was only a frown there may have been a chance to restore it. It would have to be reground to bring it back into serviceable condition. :cry:

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This was what I was thinking... I put it on some glass and the actual frown of the cuting edge its self was only a 32nd of an inch. So I ground it flat on a old 200 and it now has zero frown. Spine wear still looks rough though.

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Originally Posted by manah

Karl Muller and Paul Schmidt were the founders of "Muller&Schmidt" company. The company located at Solingen.
The company works since 1896 till our days. They have dealt in all types of cutlery.
There is only this K.Muller, but why on edge Stuttgart, instead of Solingen.

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Maybe Stuttgart Germany was all I could figure.:shrug:
With zero edge frown you think there maybe one lst hone-up left in her Ken? That pic sucks the actual edge is a little shadowed by the bad beval. Im sure its prob junk!

Matt

I figured the frown was negligible; to me it looked like an uneven bevel rather than an actual frowning edge and the uneven bevels are about as common on old wedges as horn scales are (pretty much the norm).
I'm glad it looks like you'll be able to bring it back!

Chris L

Chris your right the bevals awfull and so is the pic! In hand it dont look as bad but it is very uneaven the other side has alot LESS wear. Im going to clean it up with hand sanding ...polish the hell out of it with the buffer take it to the Nortons and if nothing els I will put it in the case. Old 1800's aint my thing but for 5$ I figured it could be put in display if nothing els.

Matt

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Originally Posted by Vashaver

Maybe Stuttgart Germany was all I could figure.:shrug:
With zero edge frown you think there maybe one lst hone-up left in her Ken? That pic sucks the actual edge is a little shadowed by the bad beval. Im sure its prob junk!

Matt

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For $5.00 you can lose for trying. I'd say lay on about four layers of tape on the spine and try to set a bevel on your 200. The tape will probably wear so replace the worn layer it until you get up to 4000. It should do okay then. If you want to put the smile back in it, use a sweeping stroke on the stones.
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Originally Posted by Kenrup

For $5.00 you can lose for trying. I'd say lay on about four layers of tape on the spine and try to set a bevel on your 200. The tape will probably wear so replace the worn layer it until you get up to 4000. It should do okay then. If you want to put the smile back in it, use a sweeping stroke on the stones.
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Ken you answerd my next question about the tape I have never delt with a wedge this big Im greatfull for any advice given. So do you sugest taking all the tape off at the 4000?

Matt

A little info about a Karl Muller born in Germany in 1820 and some of his work:
Brooklyn Museum: Karl L. H. Mueller
I know it says Mueller, but his work was inscribed with "K. Muller" as on the razor

I apologise, but I have not found anywhere that Karl L. H. Mueller did razors.
Is it possible to read somewhere about it?

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Originally Posted by manah

I apologise, but I have not found anywhere that Karl L. H. Mueller did razors.
Is it possible to read somewhere about it?

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I found a reference with this Karl Mueller b. 1820 d. 1889 attached to stuttgart Germany. I too have not found that this particular fellow had anything to do with running a knife shop of any kind.

Well I apreciate the help and intrest from you guys! I couldnt come up with squat.

Matt:tu