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Hi guys... I'm relatively new to the SR scene but I was wondering how a 2nd generation Boker (for example, the King Cutter) stacks up against the vintage originals.
Is it like most things today, in that they "just don't make 'em like they used to"?
Thanks,
Ogie
I like my vintage king cutter and can't see how the new ones can beat it. Especially can't see them beating the price I paid. $300 for a new razor, thats ridiculous.
But if anyone wants me to write a review, you can lend me a new boker and I'll compare it to the old ones. :)
I don't know about the bokers but looking at the remaining factory made razors like the TI's and Dovo's though there is nothing wrong with the new ones if you ever shaved with a 7/8s Dovo fritz bracht or Diamond Steel the new ones just don't compare in my opinion.
New ones supposed to be better then old ones. This is true about ti and dovo etc
Now i have never used new boker . I have old ones and they are very nice.
How they make new boker now i don't know .
Let me give a little explanation why i said new ti example should be better.
the only reason is company has been exist forever and they have learned from their mistake to make better blade ,better technology and etc. hope this helps.
Entropy my friend. Entropy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl
Lack of demand from the 1940s until today = all the best and brightest do not become no trained grinders/heat treaters etc.
edit: I offer up a challenge to anyone. Explain what makes a razor awesome and then tell us why the old TI's just didn't quite have it, and why the new ones do. Or vice versa.
Well.. here's part of the reason why I asked.
This is a fantastic looking razor, and I put a bid in at 50 bucks earlier this morning. Now it's up above $70. I don't know if the potential buyers on the bay know what they're doing, but it looks like this one is going to fetch some nice change. I just didn't know if it was a newer generation because of the great shape it's in.
BOKER & CO Germany KING CUTTER 5/8 STRAIGHT RAZOR~MINT! - eBay (item 330326913134 end time May-06-09 19:35:00 PDT)
There is no way that razor was ever going to end under $100.
edit: its a vintage king cutter.
wow its climbin fast, its up to 120 since u posted:gaah:
wouldn't be surprised if it went for $200.
Still time to get in on it.
Then we can help you with new scales?
I can get really creative.:gl:
new scales would be an sin on that razor!
I wouldbe surprised if that razzor was ever used. If you want a boker, at that price I would buy a new one, though like I said That razor does not look like it has been used to me. I think it would be worth about $150 if I could affford it or get it for that becaus eit is one beautiful razor.
Go For IT!
Alas, I had to let it go... what a shame. I can't justify dropping that kind of money on razors yet.
But you know what's a bigger shame? This one (definitely more used looking) went for $36.
H Boker King Cutter Germany Straight Razor Tree Logo - eBay (item 220405079948 end time May-05-09 12:32:12 PDT)
I have NEVER had a Bad Vintage Boker and I dont have any new ones but the Vintage Boker is one of the Best Buys out there IMO. They take a great edge and have a good smooth feel. If the new ones are as good they have made a heck of a razor.
Unfortunately the seller is not being honest so I'd advise caution. He claims there is no rust or pitting yet it's clearly visible on the tang.
You can buy my King Cutter for whatever that one sold for. :D
$36 bucks? :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
Corrected. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Oglethorpe
edit: pff, it only went for $130. Lol, doesn't look like people really like that particular boker.
edit: Hey! that KC has more gold than mine! :( Now I feel like I don't have enough bling on my razor. :cry:
Oh well, mine is still bigger!
I have a new generation Böker "The Celebrated". I've also had old generation Bökers. Böker razors are all great!
Those of us who have the TI Pierre Thiers LE will tell you they outshave the new ones by a wide margin and some of their other offerings made from vintage blanks are superior too.Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl
Too often we make the assumption that new technology is the most important factor which trumps fabrication skill. That assumption is foolhardy as the passengers on the Titanic would tell you if they could.
That one is grungy, dirty, and the seller only provided pics of one side. Plus the scales are ugly. :D Mine are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oglethorpe