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A friend of mine travelled to Spain, then England, then New York. I told him before he left to keep an eye out for a straight razor for me. He didn't know if I used them or collected them, so got he spent 20 pounds in London on the one he thought was scaled in ivory and over 100 years old. At the very least the case and the scales will be saved. Anyone have thoughts or ideas about a regrind? It's so beautiful, and in such condition... the cracks bring tears to my eyes...
cheers,
Justin
well it has a lovely spine!:)
right!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc
:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:
I would say that the beautiful elements would make it worth a stab at regrinding. Seriously, it's a beautiful blade...the scales are very interesting, and that spine work is gorgeous.
If what I see is correct, your blade about 13/16 or 7/8. Right?
I believe you can make out of it 6/8 or on worst case 5/8 for sure, and we will keep our mouth shut :) :gl:
That is a nice traveling scale case set and it is just really too sad that the blade was so badly mauled. :cry:
From the photo I can see that there is even a crack in the blade that appears to run up halfway to the spine. Even repeated trips to the orthodontist won't save that blade.
I wouldn't waste even one minute on any regrind attempts. Instead, spend your time on finding another good blade that can be pinned into those very fine scales.
What Ignatz says.
A pity, but that one is toast.
ignatz:
I know the line you speak of, and I don't think it is a crack. It only shows on one side, but is a thin dark line on the other side. The dark line corresponds with a crack, but the two diverge less than half-way up the line's length, the crack being much more straight than the line. Perhaps it is oxidation? The longest crack is at the heel and runs (guessing here, on a head full of great wine) 4 mm.
No doubt about saving the scales however... maybe if someone has a Wacker in lame scales laying about somewhere...
Also, why can't I find any threads with this solingen brand?
There wasn't a Wacker in it.
The stamp says Wagner & Lange. All another maker.
Too bad! such razor. Very beautiful razor.
Fail to correct beautifully an edge, very big cracks.
Good eye manah. I had missed those cracks. I think it's safe to say that finding a replacement blade or having one fabricated are the only options. As beautiful as those scales are, it would be a shame not to.
Yeah, but Wacker's make the only other spines I've seen like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0livia
I would love to be proven wrong. :)
Ah allright! Thats a point.
I have a 9/16" with a worked spine in a similar pattern.
I'm afraid its too small for your purposes though.
No big maker either.
would it be possible to turn it into a frameback? keep the spine, mill a slot in it and fit a blade to it?
Red
There's was a local antique store (about 40 min from my home) that has a 6/8" or bigger Solingen razor with similar/same spine work. It wasn't a Wacker either.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassguy
Too bad that was about 3 months ago, it might not be there any more.
Maker shmaker!Quote:
Originally Posted by 0livia
forgive the bad english but to paraphrase one of my favorite jazz musicians...
What do it shave like?
go go go go!Quote:
Originally Posted by joke1176
find it if it's still there!
we must make this happen!
RED!!!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Red
... and even keep some of the head maybe!
lets dream! :)
Olivia, you understand!Quote:
Originally Posted by 0livia
You get it!
What, the razor? LOL no,
but I can send you a spare blade of a french frameback that came with two of them, if you like.
Absolutely stunning spine. What a shame! Maybe some ingenuity will turn it into a frameback.
I have some advice if you are contemplating turning that chewed up blade into a frameback...
DON'T EVEN BOTHER TRYING! :rant:
First of all, you would have to carve away a huge amount of metal to get back to the spine. The blade already has cracks in it, and as such might shatter completely if subjected to a wee bit too much stress during this process. And even if you didn't explode the blade, the grinding process would take lots and lots of slow, careful work, most especially to avoid overheating or burning the metal. We are talking hours, not minutes.
Then, even if you succeeded in accomplishing that first Herculean task, you would have to be able to grind out a cleanly centered slot in the underside of the remaining metal of the spine of the razor. I say 'grind' because I suspect the steel is already too hard to allow one to safely use a metal slitting saw on it. Again, you would need some pretty good tools in order to accomplish this with any hope of succeeding, let alone obtaining a good result. Either way - grinding or slitting - access to some sort of tool with an XY table with a vise to clamp the blade into is almost certainly required.
But even if you did finally make a slot in the underside of the razor frame that was clean, straight and deep enough to accept a 'removable' blade, you would still be in trouble since you would have no reliable way of securing the blade into the slot. That steel is already too hard to be press folded around a new blade, even if the slot was there. A new blade could be secured with a screw system of some sort, but again, I fear that the metal of the spine is too hard to allow for any sort of easy and certain machining (drilling and threading operations). The only hope would be to epoxy the new blade in place and I'm afraid that after all of your hard work the end result would not be so very attractive.
But, of course, that is only my opinion. You are free to experiment... and if you do, I hope you succeed. :)
- Ignatz
Sounds like a challenge!
Before you give up on this razor, send it to someone who actually restoring them for a final decision. I don't believe you can always judge by picture... they can be tricky sometimes.
hhhhmmmmmm :hmmm: .......
or bid on 200365585672 (germany)
Says Laurel twigs (Lorbeerranken) on the spine.
Thanks for the great ideas! I going to take it Max probably, but the best option looks like hold out on a new blade. I have a lead on a twin of this blade, but will have to wait a week or so for that to play out. OR get a sweet frameback, OR Henckels... only time will tell. But since it looks like the blade is pretty much shot anyway, I might experiment with it: dab some superglue on the cracks to stabilize them, then (how do you say) breadknife it and see what happens.
This is terrible. It's like marrying a super model and discovering she doesn't have a vanilla. My condolences.:cry:
Your english is much better than my german!Quote:
Originally Posted by 0livia
I did notice that your "Goldfinch 5/8" has the same material scales as this one... :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:
Thanks and yes I know.
Its that travel type of handle but I do not have the hull for this one and it does not have the brasswork, your's has, either.
I'll try to win the one above, if language is an issue.
We can see what we do, after the auction.