Birthday present (Help me choose)

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09-30-2009, 04:12 AM
krisbarger

Birthday present (Help me choose)

I want to tell my wife what to get me in a month or so for my birthday. I was thinking of a price range of about $250-$300 but I am flexible. I started looking at the hart steel razor because of the price range and oddly enough the looks. But, I may wait a while on those. From what I am reading they might not be ready yet for all my eggs. I have 4 razors now. All of which are cheap by any standard, all used also.

I have looked into wacker's, Livi regrinds,????... I was wondering what would be some other GREAT razors to look into. Give me some ideals and why. Thanks guys

My list of priorities.

1. Price range. One day I will drop $600 to $1,000 on a killer heirloom but not yet.
2. Smooth shaver that will hold an edge.
3. Looks. I like clean looks that does not get too gaudy.

What else should I be looking for?
I am not infinitely picky as some of the guys on here (yet). i.e. no need to measure the angle of the grind. I will save that for when I have been doing this for a few more years. Thanks for all of your input.
09-30-2009, 04:26 AM
holli4pirating

Take a look at shavingshop.com. They have some great blades. Mayby a Wacker or a Friodor?
09-30-2009, 12:16 PM
krisbarger

I have looked at wacker.. I like them. The other brand you mentioned, what is the deal with them? They very nice?
09-30-2009, 12:21 PM
DPflaumer

I personally love my Redpoint, and there is one on the bay right now that looks near mint, classy black scales too, which I find prettier than my cream ones.
09-30-2009, 12:36 PM
mainaman

LeGrelot 1/4 hollow grind (they are vintage now) if you can get one of those they are awesome shavers.
TI razors are always accepted very well.
Robert Williams
makes custom razors, I do not own one, but he has very good prices and you can customize a lot.

Revizor is a respectable brand from Germany.
09-30-2009, 12:52 PM
krisbarger

RW prices??? His stuff looks crazy awesome. But the prices, what are the ranges? The razors look very expensive.
09-30-2009, 01:11 PM
AirColorado

When you go to the Revisor website, on the main page there are 3 photos. The one on the right shows a huge display of razors behind the counter. Can you imagine what that immediate area would look like if 20 of us showed up at that counter? I dare say we'd be standing there for hours and all drop more money than is probably socially acceptable! Wow! I wonder if that store and display is still there and showing blades that can be had?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainaman

LeGrelot 1/4 hollow grind (they are vintage now) if you can get one of those they are awesome shavers.
TI razors are always accepted very well.
Robert Williams
makes custom razors, I do not own one, but he has very good prices and you can customize a lot.

Revizor is a respectable brand from Germany.
09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
holli4pirating

Quote:

Originally Posted by krisbarger

I have looked at wacker.. I like them. The other brand you mentioned, what is the deal with them? They very nice?

The Friodur's are stainless razors by Henkels. I have one in 7/8 with a worked back and a Spanish point. A great looking razor, and a great shaver too.
09-30-2009, 04:02 PM
krisbarger

Quote:

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

The Friodur's are stainless razors by Henkels. I have one in 7/8 with a worked back and a Spanish point. A great looking razor, and a great shaver too.

Those Friodur's do look great! I looked for a review could not find one. How would they compare to a Livi regrind? Also, I read some not so great comments about the Wacker's but they look so good.:confused: I think I am lusting over those big spanish points on the Wacker's and Friodur's.

I want a RW custom but the wait will be impossible:mad: I will get one of those anyway (for later) but I want something soon.
09-30-2009, 04:10 PM
holli4pirating

I don't have any first hand experience with Wackers, but I thought I'd read good things.

I'm not sure how a Friodur stacks up to a Livi (since I don't have a Livi), but I would guess that the Livi's are a step up. Not that a Friodur is a bad razor in any way - they have a nice size, heft, are very smooth shavers, and look great. I just think Livi probably does higher quality work...

I'm sure someone with more knowledge and experience will chime in soon.
09-30-2009, 04:24 PM
krisbarger

Quote:

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I don't have any first hand experience with Wackers, but I thought I'd read good things.

I'm not sure how a Friodur stacks up to a Livi (since I don't have a Livi), but I would guess that the Livi's are a step up. Not that a Friodur is a bad razor in any way - they have a nice size, heft, are very smooth shavers, and look great. I just think Livi probably does higher quality work...

I'm sure someone with more knowledge and experience will chime in soon.

The Livi regrinds are smaller. How would that change in comparison?

Another crazy question... Seeing they are regrinds, are they still really a Livi?
09-30-2009, 04:52 PM
holli4pirating

Size is really just a matter of personal preference.

Well, they are not Livi forged, but my understanding is that he uses high quality, NOS blanks to regrind. So the workmanship is his, though the steel isn't.
09-30-2009, 05:35 PM
mojka

look at www.vintangscent.com pretty nice filharmonica is still available
09-30-2009, 05:41 PM
Otto

Livi regrinds, Wackers, and Friodors are all great choices. You will not go wrong with any of them. I have all three, actually two Wackers. It all boils down to your personal preference in regards to size and point style. There is no wrong answer to this one.
09-30-2009, 05:43 PM
AirColorado

I have a 72 1/2 Froidur and a 7/8 Wacker. The grinds are different (full hollow on the Friodur and maybe half hollow on the Wacker). I prefer the Wacker because it's smoother - but the Froidur is for sure a nice shaver. But when taking all aspect into account I'd have to say go for the Wacker spanish point with a half hollow or even more weighty grind. To me the Froidur compares closely with the Reynolds I have. Good shaves but the grind (full hollow) is just not as smooth a shave for my beard type.
10-02-2009, 03:19 AM
krisbarger

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirColorado

I have a 72 1/2 Froidur and a 7/8 Wacker. The grinds are different (full hollow on the Friodur and maybe half hollow on the Wacker). I prefer the Wacker because it's smoother - but the Froidur is for sure a nice shaver. But when taking all aspect into account I'd have to say go for the Wacker spanish point with a half hollow or even more weighty grind. To me the Froidur compares closely with the Reynolds I have. Good shaves but the grind (full hollow) is just not as smooth a shave for my beard type.

Are there any Froidur's out there new with a 1/2 hollow or 1/4 hollow? I have looked at shaving shop and cannot tell their grinds. How do I find out?
10-02-2009, 03:56 AM
holli4pirating

As far as I know, all Friodur's are just about full hollow grinds.
10-02-2009, 05:45 AM
mainaman

Quote:

Originally Posted by krisbarger

Are there any Froidur's out there new with a 1/2 hollow or 1/4 hollow? I have looked at shaving shop and cannot tell their grinds. How do I find out?

you can try your luck with this NOS Fridour:
STRAIGHT RAZOR HENCKELS INOX ORNATE SPINE NEW 78"++ - eBay (item 220486186746 end time Oct-04-09 12:05:08 PDT)
10-02-2009, 07:54 AM
John Crowley

Quote:

Originally Posted by krisbarger

Those Friodur's do look great! I looked for a review could not find one. How would they compare to a Livi regrind? Also, I read some not so great comments about the Wacker's but they look so good.:confused: I think I am lusting over those big spanish points on the Wacker's and Friodur's.

I want a RW custom but the wait will be impossible:mad: I will get one of those anyway (for later) but I want something soon.

I asked someone the other day what they were referring too as a "regrind".
As it was explained to me it is one of Miestro Livi's razors where he has ground a razor blank rather than making a razor by hand. If that is what you guys are calling a "regrind" then all production razors are now "regrinds". Dovo, TI (with the exception of a few 100 yr. old hand forged blanks), Wacker, Revisor, Boker, Henckels, all of them would be called "regrinds". They all purchase razor blanks from a foundry and the grinder does the final grinding of the blank. This has to be a term that someone recently coined.
10-02-2009, 10:46 AM
DPflaumer

If you are still looking for a razor to get for your birthday, Obie recently gave the Boker Edelweiss a sterling review. I know it is well under $250, but you have to admit it is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship
10-02-2009, 11:51 AM
krisbarger

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPflaumer

If you are still looking for a razor to get for your birthday, Obie recently gave the Boker Edelweiss a sterling review. I know it is well under $250, but you have to admit it is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship

Thanks, That is a pretty razor. I have been lusting after one of John's Friodurs. I may have to pull the trigger on one:)
10-02-2009, 11:59 AM
RonnieNC

Friodurs

You will enjoy working with John . Bought a Spanish point Friodur with carbon steel scales a few months back and it is really nice. Packaged in a very nice wooden box. A really nice shaver

Good Luck!
10-02-2009, 05:26 PM
krisbarger

Got me a nice one boys!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieNC

You will enjoy working with John . Bought a Spanish point Friodur with carbon steel scales a few months back and it is really nice. Packaged in a very nice wooden box. A really nice shaver

Good Luck!

I am very excited. This my new razor.

7/8 Henckels Friodur Scalloped Back Spanish point - palisander rosewood : Shaving Shop - luxury classic wet shaving products - straight razors