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Every now and then I come across one of these. Frequently it is the haft only, but I've even seen a completely blued Dovo. To me it makes sense, the high carbon steel should accept blueing nicely, when done correctly, it protects the metal and should increase the life of the blade (though not the edge). Why don't I see this done more often? Is it just aesthetics?
Goog
They are out there. Mostly the older ones. I guess the style never fell into favor. I'm not so sure how durable the bluing is and few razors are actually totally plated. There are some that have been nickel plated and gold is used as a decoration mostly. Of course that doesn't stop you from doing it yourself. I know guys have tried it with variable success. I guess depending on whether you use the hot or cold method determines how well it goes.
I can hot blue a razor. I made up a lye and fertilizer solution a while back to blue some gun parts. I'ts really a question of "why not?" I may do it to an ebay special and see if I like it.
Goog
go head please let us know how it will look likeQuote:
Originally Posted by greatgoogamooga
Hi Goog,
I use the same lye/fertiliser mix to 'hot' blue - here's a Timor I did quite a while ago (photo isn't up to much - the reddish mottling on the blade wasn't there in real-life):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/blued-gf.jpg
The mixture isn't used at blade-temper distorting heats - well under in fact. It was a G&F Blued Steel razor, that's why I did it. It's a bit of an acquired taste, but a very durable finish - you have to protect the spine and be careful during honing though. The bright silver line of the bevel contrasts nicely against the almost black blade.
Regards,
Neil
Lots of blued tangs out there.
I have a Kinfolks Blue Steel Special that is completely blued.
Only problem is that, over time, bluing wears, just as gold wash does, only bluing may be more robust for a finish.
The bevel and any hone wear really stand out.
I have serious doubts that there is any significant additional protection. A blued razor will rust or pit like a non-blued razor.
Blued blades aint as shiny as raw steel, so I would imagine its a matter of consumer tastes and what is easily salable. But blued makes a lot of sense, and just like a blued knife, the edge would add some pretty contrast as Neil has pointed out.
Just making sure I read that typo correctly that the mixture isn't used AT temper distorting temps...right. That's something I hadn't thought about. If I remember, the solution boils at close to 300F. I need to be much higher than that to damage the blade.....right...right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
goog
You may be getting close to tempering temperature but it depends on the steel. If I recall correctly some tool steels are tempered around 400/450. Best to Google 'tempering tool steel' and see what you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatgoogamooga
Another option available at gun shops is Belgian Blue, which is a cold bluing solution you just wipe on.
Good luck
That dyslexia is gaining on me! I have corrected the typo now thanks. The mixture I use is used at 285 degrees F, so has no effect on the blades I have put through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatgoogamooga
Regards,
Neil
I have used the new Birchwood Casey- Super Blue (there is a difference in them) on a few tangs with very good sucess... I haven't tried it on the whole razor but I don't see why it wouldn't work...
I did a rifle barrel with the stuff. Surprisingly good for a cold blue product. Been on there for about a year and still holding up nicely. It's all in the prep work.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Goog
Hey guys long time. no post.
The interesting thing I found with bluing a whole blade is the forgiveness in the finish. Don't get me wrong, preparation is everything, BUT, Bluing can take a bad blade and make it usable.
What I mean and from my experience is that I had an old Bengall that I just knew I could not get to a nice mirror finish due to an even coat of rust and a lot of manual labor. I suppose I could have saved it if I wanted to lose alot of blade size and thickness, but decided another route. I went with cold blueing.
After a good first soak, the blueing actually took off the layer of rust and left me with a nice even steel finish. This was after a rinse and light sanding of 600. I did that 2 more times and a final dip and had a nice smooth, blue finish.
I can only assume that the chemical mixture to blueing removes some metal (surface) as it works. Myself, I would not do it with a razor that could be brought back to mirror luster, but I would do it to one that could be salvaged as "usable".
As an aside, it is one of my finest shavers, but thats because it is a Bengall, not because it is blued. :D. I'm glad I saved it.
-Jerry
Hey Kilowattkid ~ welcome back.
I've done a few Bengalls with Perma blue paste also.
Polishing them back with some metal polish gives a nice grey patina effect without all the acid bath process.
The Super Blue sounds good.