Do different grinds shave differently?

[RobertH]

Hey guys,

I was reading the Wiki trying to find an answer to this but haven't found one yet. I was wondering whether there's a reason to choose a wedge vs. full hollow / half hollow / etc... besides what the Wiki states as hollow ground blades are easier to hone.

I was wondering when you consider what type of razor to buy, is the primary deciding factor simply aesthetics? I realize that different points have their uses, but beside the point shape are there any other factors that affect the shave?

If the grind (or any other choice in the shape, size, etc..) of a blade does matter in terms of shaving properties, which is the best option for those with extremely tough beard hairs? My beard does not grow bushy, but it is tough and thick like wire.

Thanks for any info on this.

Rob

[BeBerlin]

Let me begin by stating that in my experience there are no extremely tough beards, only razors that are not shave ready. I shave with everything from 5/8 full wedges to 8/8 singing full hollows. Doesn't matter in terms of the final result.

Now then, there is the factor of what we call "flex", ie the ability of a blade to yield under pressure and spring back into its original form. Obviously, this is only helpful when the blade is truly shave ready. Failing that, it will bounce off the hairs. There is also the factor of "feedback", ie the way the blade tells you what it's doing while you shave. A wedge will have zero feedback, and that can be tricky for a beginner. Once you've learnt to "read" what little feedback it offers, there is nothing inherently complicated about shaving with a wedge, though.

Personally, I have learnt to like big blades with a little flex best, but still use small wedges on occasions. One of the fun things about our hobby, the multitudes of subtle alterations in the routine.

Regards,
Robin

[TTfireman]

+1 on what Robin said.

I just want to say that I can attest to the fact that a wedge is tricky for a beginner. I restored a beau brummel 4/8 wedge a while back and had it honed by a honemeister here on the sight, so it was definitely shave ready. I actually cut myself with it because I didn't know how to read it's lack of feedback. And I don't mean a nick! I still have a mark on my cheek months later.

Basically I said all that to say that if you are experimenting with different grinds and/or sizes REALLY pay attention to what you are doing. They all behave differently. Too much pressure may give you a little razor burn with one, or a nice new scar with another.

But good luck in you quest for the perfect razor!

[gssixgun]

Technically no they don't shave different , I mean a sharp as hell edge lops off the hair on yer face, period end of story....
How the razor feels on yer face is what is different, try a half hollow 6/8, this is the dead center of size and grind, then you can decide which way you want to head after that...
Always understand that everything that is said about how a certain razor shaves only has to do with that persons face, it is all opinion...

[Hawkeye5]

Hi Rob,

A sharp blade is a sharp blade and a dull one is....well, you get the idea.

Everyone is correct, this thing of ours is very individual. Although I don't necessarily agree that a wedge is tricker for a beginner, a heavy grind allows for some mistakes a full hollow will not permit, however a 4/8ths can be very difficult.

I get great shaves from all grinds and sizes. What makes a difference for me is weight of the blade, heavy is better for me.

What differs is the feed back. Wedges give a silent shave. Full hollows make a racket while cleaving through the beard. Not better or worse, just different sounds. Depends on my mood, but I like both.

One of my favorite razors is a 6/8ths Thiers Issard Super Gnome Extra half hollow. While mine is an older one, I think the current production is more than likely close to the same and may be one to consider. Also can be had in a 5/8ths.

So, my recommendation is the same as Glenn's.

[RobertH]

As always thanks for all the quick replies guys. I'm slowly filling up my head with all this good info.

[Doublewood]

Thanks for this thread, it's anwered several question, possibilly saved some money (for now) and quite possibilly a scar lol (have only been SR shaving a couple of months)

[thebigspendur]

Remember your face only see's the very cutting edge of the blade and couldn't care in the least if the blade weighs 1 ounce or 1 pound. As you use different grinds and sizes you ability to manipulate the instrument is what will determine the outcome. Some make it a little easier and some a little more difficult and there will be differences in feel.

The best advice is start with something middle of the road and then as you learn try different things but don't fall into the old baber's tale of thinking you must use a particular size or grind to match the razor to the beard.

[DwarvenChef]

As already stated plus some

Only you can say how you like the different grinds. When you shave you will develop a feel for what you like, and how you like it. But that will only happen with experience (RAD issues to follow) shaving with as many grinds as you can get ahold of.

[John Crowley]

Let me begin by stating that in my experience there are no extremely tough beards, only razors that are not shave ready.

I beg to differ with you about extremely tough beards and I believe there are others here who will also.