Strange razor identifying help????????

[KING2011]

I need some help about razor identifying which I find on Croatian auction site. The photo is very bad but seller says that razor have "Rudder" symbol on one side of the tang and some letters like "dumcnzel" where letter "c" is inversely and letter "l" is somewhat strangely.
So, anybody have any idea which razor is about?????

[rannalf]

I'm guessing the "rudder" symbol might be the Wostenholm "pipe", since it was usually (always?) printed upside down. See if he can get you closeups of the tang on both sides. See if it looks like this:

[KING2011]

When I said "rudder" (do not have better translation) I think of "rudder" like on down photo:

[KING2011]

So, better translation is "ship wheel" :-) not rudder

[ats200]

I would request more and better photos. It's always a risk buying something when you can't fully see its condition. There's always the possibility that it's Pakistani, etc. if the seller isn't willing to show good pictures.

[manah]

The better photos of the tang would help.
Because a lot of Solingen blades have such "rudder" stamp.