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    Kamisori experts’ opinion is welcome

    I just bought this NOS Kamisori made from “Kiyotaka Ichihara”.
    The dimensions:
    Blade Length: 40 mm
    Blade Width (at the widest point): 18 mm
    Total Length: 150 mm
    Backside of the Blade Thickness: 5 mm

    Could somebody tell me approximately when it was made?

    Comments and opinions on the overall quality of the blade are very welcome.
    Thank you gentlemen!

















    PS: I am thinking of using the following technique for honing. Do you agree?
    YouTube - ‪gssixgun Kamisori part 1.wmv‬‏


    YouTube - ‪Japanese Kamisori Honing--Nakayama Karasu (First half)‬‏

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    gssixgun I wanted to ask you this:
    In your video you say that it must be used an 8k stone.
    This particular razor has never been used and never been honed. Doing the arm hair test it cuts absolutely no hair at all. So I was thinking that I should start honing on the 1k (Norton) and then pass to 4K, 8K, and finish to the Chinese stone.

    Would you start on the 8k anyway?

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    I am using a Coticule in that Vid and I am using a slurry...

    On a totally dull Kamisori yes you are going to have to set the bevel but You want to be careful using low grit stones as they "Cut" deep into the steel on these...
    You are going to be using a fair bit of pressure compared to honing a Western razor so I would at the very lowest start at around 4k-6k if I wasn't using a Coticule.. It is much better to polish more and cut less on these.. In fact one of the reasons I like the Coticule for setting these is they cut shallow and start with a nice haze finish... You can achieve almost the same by using a slurry on your Norton 8k too..

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    I'll second Glen here,
    I have not watched his vids but I found out that Coticule is great for starting work on Kamisori. You might be able to get a very nice edge of Coticule too, I personally prefer to finish kamisori on Jnat or Escher.
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    Don't experiment with your honing skills on that razor. You can damage one of those with the wrong technique faster than you can say Tokyo. Do your self a favor and send it out. It really needs a major hone job not a touchup.
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    Too late my friend.
    I could get no sleep thinking of it. So I got down to my hones to work on it.
    The edge looks very different, very sharp, and the arm hair test passes easily.
    Too bad I shaved earlier this afternoon. Tomorrow or after tomorrow I will shave test.

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    Hate to be a party pooper but is that a crack running top to bottom. In pics 2&4?
    Since you said nothing about it maybe i'm seeing a light reflection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Hate to be a party pooper but is that a crack running top to bottom. In pics 2&4?
    Since you said nothing about it maybe i'm seeing a light reflection.
    that is where the foge weld between hard steel and the soft iron is, not a crack.
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    If you mean the line that I indicate with the arrows, these are the Japanese letters.
    Check the second pic.

    My photos are very bad quality.





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    As Above,is not a crack,believe it is called a homan (SP) present in most of my Kamisori.
    Slur,hard to explaine but when you start your wrap,say at the end of the handle,lay about an inch of material flat on the handle,start the wrap at the very end and wrap over the one inch piece,keep wrapping toward the blade,when you get about 1/2 inch from the blade end of the wrap,lay a piece of strong fine nylon twine or fishing line with a loop on the handle,wrap over that,put the end of your material thru the loop and pull the material thru and under the final wrappings,than cut off the excess,no knots.Hope it works for you.

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