Rolled edge?

Good morning all,
I have Dovo Bismarck 2, 6/8" that I purchased from SRD. I've shaved approx. 4 times with it, the 4th. being this morning. However, the tang feels quite different from that of any of my other razors, it's "shoulderless", which has been causing me some grief when stropping, as the feel is different and i'm having a difficult time keeping the blade flat. This morning, the razor barely cut. I had to put it down, and finish with a different razor, still a Dovo, but a "shouldered" model, with file jimps on both top and bottom. Have I rolled the edge due to improper stropping? And if so, is a diamond-treated felt on a paddle strop enough to correct it? I also have a naniwa 12K stone...any advice is greatly appreciated. As always, Thanks !!
Nick.

You can rolled or dulled the edge with improper stropping. In your place I'd tried to correct on paddle strop. If it's not help try 12k stone, as it's not your single razor you can make a little experiment with it. Anyway you can't make much worse on 12K stone, if nothing helps send it back for honing

Most of the time unless you really monkey bumped the stropping (Only you can answer that) the damage you did stropping can be fixed with stropping...

Paste, linen, and leather should fix it, or maybe even just linen and leather...

Take a good look at the edge before you start, look for a sparkle at the very edge, that is a telltale of a rough edge (Rolled) and see if that sparkle dissapers after stropping correctly... Laying the strop along the edge of a table or counter until you learn the flip with that razor will help...

I don't notice the "sparkle" that you mentioned. Could it be that I simply dulled the edge? I know that I did nick the strop with the blade, and then this morning it didnt cut worth a crap! I have the SRD modular paddle strop, and I've treated the hard felt with the diamond spray. Should I start with a few laps on that, or on the naniwa 12 k?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bonbon

You can rolled or dulled the edge with improper stropping. In your place I'd tried to correct on paddle strop. If it's not help try 12k stone, as it's not your single razor you can make a little experiment with it. Anyway you can't make much worse on 12K stone, if nothing helps send it back for honing

---

I would disagree. Someone who has never honed can take a decent edge to unshavable on a stone. Trust me I am living proof of this one

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nick31

I don't notice the "sparkle" that you mentioned. Could it be that I simply dulled the edge? I know that I did nick the strop with the blade, and then this morning it didnt cut worth a crap! I have the SRD modular paddle strop, and I've treated the hard felt with the diamond spray. Should I start with a few laps on that, or on the naniwa 12 k?

---

You want to start with the least first,,,

Try 50 linen 100 leather and pay attention to the stropping
not good enough????
Try 10-15 Diamond 50 linen 100 leather
still not good enough ???
20 laps naniwa 12k, 50 linen 100 leather

After all that, if it still doesn't shave it needs a honing :(


ps: Lynn hones without tape, if you know how to hone then hone without tape also, if you are brand new to honing then use 1 layer of tape and that will get you right to the very edge...

If it needs honing, could that be accomplished with a Norton 4k/8k followed by the Naniwa 12 k?

LOL Why am I now getting the impression that you know something yer not telling us :)


But to answer your question YES !!! a 4-8-12 set up can hone any razor to shaving nirvana unless there is serious damage that would take a 1k and even that is just a time difference...

Search JaNorton and read and watch some of the stuff in that thread, it is stocked full of info for you...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html


But again start light first....

What do I know that I'm not telling?! Lol!! I just like the idea of being able to fix my own razors!!

Right on Brother... It is almost as much fun as the shaving part, but I warn ya it is even more addictive :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyimages

I would disagree. Someone who has never honed can take a decent edge to unshavable on a stone. Trust me I am living proof of this one

---

I know about what you think, I also managed to ruined edge with my first honing, but then I recover it by myself.

Nick31 have razor with not big work to do (razor already unshavable), and also have few reserve razors. It's good time to give a try

Nick, kudos for learning how to remedy the edge. As Glen said, a Norton 4/8 & Nani 12 are just the medicine, though I'd try the stropping route first. Magnification helps to inspect the edge. 'Doesn't have to be fancy - even a 10x loupe helps. 20-30 even better. If funds are an issue, Harbor Freight has them dirt cheap. Glen also had a thread showing a very reasonable lighted loupe that looks very handy.

If all else fails - you know you have help. Send them this way. I suspect you'll be able to get a great edge w/ the tools you mention. If a refresher on using the Norton or Nani is helpful, search Glen's video channel. The Norton was very well shown in his vid w/ 'Speedster', and his Nani progression shows how the slurry is first used, then clear water. Alot of us have benefitted greatly from these vids.

Well, I tried some light laps on the 12k, followed by about 30 on the untreated felt, followed by 50 on leather, and that wasn't enough. So then I did 7 laps on diamond treated felt, followed by leather, and its closer now, but still not where I want it. I'm hesitant to go all the way to the 4k norton at this point. Unless I should just kill the damn edge and start fresh?

I bought a 40X loop with dual white/UV LEDs, free shipping on the bay for $7.

I'm sure there are better ones, but you can't beat the price.

I have to walk to the other end of the house to use my wife's stereo microscope.