W&B rare models.

Just for fun. I am trying to build my own collection, and have an idea in my own head which is probably not accurate of the rarity of W&B models. In general I think W&B are not that rare currently I see 98 listed on the 'bay
recenlty I have been more excited as I got my first 8/8 last week and will have a pearl handle delivers this Wed.

All opinions welcome especially photos of your collections or rare specimens.

I can update this list as more opinions come in.

1) 7 day sets with ivory scales.
2) 2 day sets with Ivory scales and ivory tang covers.
3) pearl handle scales
4) chopers 1 1/8 or larger
5) ivory scale
6) tortious scale
7) pressed bone
8) frame back
9) tortious shell.
10) other?

I would bet that W&B made more razors than any other Sheffield maker with the possible exception of Wostenholme ..... Could be wrong though.

@which lines up with why they are collectible, any one can have a chance to collect them, even the super rare ones people can get if you stalk eBay, which is half the fun.

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Originally Posted by sidmind

@which lines up with why they are collectible, any one can have a chance to collect them, even the super rare ones people can get if you stalk eBay, which is half the fun.

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IME, with most collectibles, if you've got the $$ you can acquire whatever it is if you're willing to spend them. Two things I keep in mind, knowing myself, are, you can't take it with you .... and if you're not satisfied with what you have, you'll never be satisfied with what you get. Have fun. :gl:

Here are or we're some of mine.
My 8/8 or 61/64 how ever you like to round things... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...2345f07311.jpg

I was never sure if this was modeld horn or real toriois shell, I sold,it off for cheap now wish I could get it back.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...f709061222.jpg

The next three I got a great deal on from a BIN. It will be here Wed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1f4780d54f.jpg

Frameback.. Faux? Also wil be delivered Wed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ad8418cb36.jpg

Some of the older ones are harder to find, like with a GR/WR stamp, or even earlier just marked "R. Wade". Also, a big 10/8 W&B with an anchor stamp just went on the bay a little while ago. That one was cool.

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IME, with most collectibles, if you've got the $$ you can acquire whatever it is if you're willing to spend them. Two things I keep in mind, knowing myself, are, you can't take it with you .... and if you're not satisfied with what you have, you'll never be satisfied with what you get. Have fun. :gl:

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Oh yea Mr Smarty pants then tell me where I can find a Bresnick Napoleon.

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Oh yea Mr Smarty pants then tell me where I can find a Bresnick Napoleon.

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You can have mine when you pry it from my cold dead fingers ....... :roflmao .... I keep it next to my Devonshire Oilstone ..... ";"

Look through the Butcher Shop (W&B razor club) and see what you don't see much of.

Personally, I've only ever seen one of these:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...tml#post570895
(post 403)

My dream razor, a W&B Adamantine Edge, is quite rare. I've scowered the internet and asked a many people and I still can't find one.

One of my favorites:Attachment 107037

One of my favorites :Attachment 107038

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One of my favorites :Attachment 107038

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Nice blade! Looks like it started out as at least 9/8!

Actually it is a one inch blade, which is the same as 8/8 "for Barbers Use" all original..scales are horn,bulls eye pins etc..

Am blessed to have alot of very nice razors,but this 9/8 is my baby,best shaver Ihave ever used.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...dlecone/WB.jpg

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Originally Posted by ruday555

Actually it is a one inch blade, which is the same as 8/8 "for Barbers Use" all original..scales are horn,bulls eye pins etc..

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I see that it is 8/8 according to the ruler. I meant that it was likely larger 150 years ago. Beautiful piece regardless.

Eric.

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Originally Posted by animalwithin

My dream razor, a W&B Adamantine Edge, is quite rare. I've scowered the internet and asked a many people and I still can't find one.

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Max Sprecher did a restoration on a W&B Adamantine Edge here it is, really stunning razor for sure!
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This thread is starting to resemble the "Butcher Shop" ! :hmmm:

What about one like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps4b1b74e4.jpg

1830's - 1840's ?? ivory! Maybe? .
Blades pretty worn.

Edit: this thread is not meant to be like the butcher shop, this is to post photos about a select set of W&B razors, not necessarily your own collection. I could not find a thread like it. So why not BS about them.. :)

Well, because your razor is probably ivory scaled as to the collarless peens in spite of the rest.
This thread does indeed resemble the "Butcher Shop" Razor club!
I have been wrong, but I think, in this case, I am right!
No one appreciates Wade and Butcher Razors as much as I do.

It really matters not
JMHO.

That's not my razor, but I could buy it if wanted.. I included it because it might be rare, but wasn't for sure,

Sorry my thread offended anyone, I have been wondering about these things lately and what better place to ask the questions,,, if its an issue the mods can delete it. Or it can die off into the nether regions of SRP hopefully without harming anyone,,, :)

Your thread offended no one! As you wish advise on a razor, just ask! If you post a razor as a "rare model" you might want to be certain it is one. We assume you are in possession of it. We cannot be sure unless you tell us that you want info! Rare and in good condition is different than rare and worn, IMO. There is an "Auction Talk " forum as well for considering perspective purchases.
Seems Fair!

What do you think aBout that last one I listed with the photo? Do you think its rare? I was not posting it as rare. I was not sure..
Looks like ivory, and looks early 1800's but I want sure where it would fit on the 1-10 scale... :)

This one intrigued me, as I have been wanting a ivory straight. Actually I have been looking for ivory Joseph Rogers... But considering this w&b.

FWIW, I agree with Tom, rare is one thing and condition is everything. There are plenty of ivory Sheffields that come up. I'd wait for one in nice condition. That pearl W&B that I got recently ..... fine condition and a good price. Took years before I finally stepped in it but with patience and saliva ......

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FWIW, I agree with Tom, rare is one thing and condition is everything. There are plenty of ivory Sheffields that come up. I'd wait for one in nice condition. That pearl W&B that I got recently ..... fine condition and a good price. Took years before I finally stepped in it but with patience and saliva ......

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Just so I understand, the issue with that ivory handled one I just posted is because of the hone wear.. Right? The scales are good shape and not broken, I guess I have been thinking about the early 1800's razors wrong. I figured most if not all 1830'40's blades would be worn,(assuming it IS 1830's or 1840's) FYI I did agree to buy it for next to nothing,

Edit: fixed date range after a little more research, still not sure though.

Maybe a rare one? I haven't seen too many, and none in this condition. This isn't a restore, but original. It's as shiny as the two images show. The other two I used a matte reflection so the blade would show.

Regards,
Howard

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Look through the Butcher Shop (W&B razor club) and see what you don't see much of.

Personally, I've only ever seen one of these:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...tml#post570895
(post 403)

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I saw one go through eBay a few months back.

There was also another Ottoman Egyptian razor, which makes 3 that I know of.

I've only seen one other of this model:

http://theshiveringbeggar.com/wp-con...9/IMG_7698.jpg

As for tortoise scales, I've never seen one I can verify (of Wade & Butcher, that is). Nearly all with the mottled scales are translucent horn that's been dyed, including the example you posted, Sidmind.

Ivory scaled Wade & Butcher don't seem that rare to me, but in general I prefer horn scales for their durability. Ivory is a bit delicate for my taste. I'd guess that the ivory-scaled Wade & Butcher you posted pictures if is probably 1870's-1880's. It's seen lots of use, for sure, but probably because it lived with someone for many years.

Preferences vary a good deal on wear. Personally, I like razors that've had long and varied lives. My main criteria is that they take an edge and do their job. I see no reason to think that one won't.

Of course I also like very old razors that are in excellent condition, like that double-swaged razor SirStropalot posted. :)

Thank you for the info about the tortious shell vs blond horn, I had read that but didn't know if that was always that way or if some were the real thing,

Also, on the ivory razor I posted, I was 'assuming' that because of the short tail, that it would be older and more rare. My book on straight razors shows it as around 1840's ( based on the tail). I am guessing there are exceptions to that rule also??

P.S. I am seeing what you guys are saying about. Rare and in bad shape is different than rare and in beautiful condition.. Like the fine photos you guys are posting. I thought I could edit older posts, I would go back and delete that photo I posted of the ivory razor. It certainly doesn't fit with these fine specimens.

Wow those Old Army razors are a pair thats for sure... got me drooling big time :)