Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26
Like Tree49Likes

Thread: Odd spine. Removed or made this way?

  1. #1
    Senior Member lethalgraphix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Fairfield, California
    Posts
    341
    Thanked: 60

    Default Odd spine. Removed or made this way?

    Hello again, and thank you Lynn and gents, for making this place possible.
    1st of I want to state, I as some of you are new, and I don't want to offend any of the seasoned veterans here. So if I Wade & "Butcher" the terminology, please forgive me.

    As of late I have been running across razors that appear to have sections of the spine removed. At first I thought these were modifications done to frameback razors (see below), but this didn't make any sense, because of the design. Then I noticed this being preformed on razors that I knew to have a spine.

    So, what is the purpose of removing sections of the spine? Weight, balance, decay (pitting), design?

    Erik Anton Berg (No.62) Swedish razor


    The one on the right is a Henckels Twinworks (No.060) Solingen Germeny
    Last edited by lethalgraphix; 03-08-2015 at 03:26 PM.
    Fikira and Cantfindarazor like this.

  2. #2
    Senior Member blabbermouth 10Pups's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Across the street from Mickey Mouse in Calif.
    Posts
    5,320
    Thanked: 1184

    Default

    I'll be nice and just say it looks like somebody is wade and Butchering some razors thinking it's cool. I don't :<0)
    Wullie and HARRYWALLY like this.
    Good judgment comes from experience, and experience....well that comes from poor judgment.

  3. #3
    Senior Member lethalgraphix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Fairfield, California
    Posts
    341
    Thanked: 60

    Default

    The fact that these two examples come from opposite sides of the globe (I know Sweden and Germany are closer than either to the U.S.) is puzzling. Either the same person had possession of these two razors and preformed the same work. Or it's bigger than that.

  4. #4
    Senior Member blabbermouth 10Pups's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Across the street from Mickey Mouse in Calif.
    Posts
    5,320
    Thanked: 1184

    Default

    Or it's a small group of cool dudes on Facebook :<0) It looks to me like somebody (s) taking off hone wear the wrong way. Just saying for the sake of conversation. If you like the look get one. I see the top of the spine marking up my nice strops.
    Good judgment comes from experience, and experience....well that comes from poor judgment.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to 10Pups For This Useful Post:

    EdG (03-12-2015)

  6. #5
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Pompano Beach, FL
    Posts
    4,016
    Thanked: 631

    Default

    The Anton Berg I believe is missing the spine. Look on strazors.com. I have seen some that slip on and others that are permanent.

  7. #6
    Senior Member blabbermouth 10Pups's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Across the street from Mickey Mouse in Calif.
    Posts
    5,320
    Thanked: 1184

    Default

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ird-spine.html


    IF I had one like that I would be crazy enough to try and put some brass on it.
    Last edited by 10Pups; 03-08-2015 at 04:11 PM. Reason: woke up :<0)
    Good judgment comes from experience, and experience....well that comes from poor judgment.

  8. #7
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Essex, UK
    Posts
    3,816
    Thanked: 3164

    Default

    They are the real deal - that is, they were made that way (the ones with the cut down spine).

    Why? They were bought with a slip on sleeve (a 'guard') that came as a protector, to stop the nervous or infirm cutting themselves. Some people used then to trim hair, too. They are generically referred to as guard razors, and have a fairl long history - back to the US Civil War and earlier.

    There were many makes, including this Henckels:

    Name:  henckels02.jpg
Views: 284
Size:  119.5 KB

    Name:  henckels01.jpg
Views: 294
Size:  143.5 KB

    It is not the same thing as the slip-on spine that we find in other (mainly Swedish) makes - these ones have a very thin blade, some are blued, all are wedge-shaped seen full-on, even though they are so thin. The spine - a tube of metal with a lengthwise slit) was there to provide the the honing angle.

    The guard razor does not need the guard attachment for this - it is honed in the conventional manner.

    I think they look great.

    Regards,
    Neil

  9. The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to Neil Miller For This Useful Post:

    BobH (03-08-2015), Chevhead (03-08-2015), Crawler (03-12-2015), criswilson10 (03-10-2015), JSmith1983 (03-08-2015), markbignosekelly (03-08-2015), Matheus (03-09-2015), razor720 (03-15-2015), Razorfeld (03-08-2015), Sandycrack (03-12-2015), str8fencer (03-15-2015), Substance (03-09-2015), Trimmy72 (03-10-2015), Walt (03-08-2015)

  10. #8
    Senior Member lethalgraphix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Fairfield, California
    Posts
    341
    Thanked: 60

    Default

    So, the guard isn't required to properly hone or strop?
    The guard was intended for the user while shaving? To protect the user. I see in your photo how it was intended to be used.

    Here is a head-on of the blade. So it's safe to assume the guard isn't required to use, hone or strop. But would add value?
    Last edited by lethalgraphix; 03-08-2015 at 04:51 PM.

  11. #9
    Member JimmyWetshaver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    East Coast US
    Posts
    97
    Thanked: 75

    Default

    TY Neil for clearing up the mystery of this grind. I have the Henckels you posted but do not have the guard. I have always wondered if this was just a unique grind or what. Now I know, and now I need to find the guard because I am OCD like that.
    Neil Miller likes this.

  12. #10
    Senior Member lethalgraphix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Fairfield, California
    Posts
    341
    Thanked: 60

    Default

    Exactly. Now we need a timemachine to return to 1857. ��
    Neil Miller and alpla444 like this.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •