ThanksYeah it looks a bit better than id originally did anyway! I honed it again just now and seems quite sharp. One strange thing I noticed while honing actually is that it seemed to cut arm hair with far less effort off the norton 4k than the 8k!! Why would this be? Made no sense to me! Also here are some close ups for those that are interested, took them with a USB microscope:Name: more patina.jpg Views: 437 Size: 114.9 KBName: patina.jpg Views: 439 Size: 141.6 KBName: surface.jpg Views: 414 Size: 148.3 KBName: the edge.jpg Views: 515 Size: 116.0 KB