Very thin Griffon

Hi,

a friend gave me a razor for Christmas (found it online somewhere). It's a Griffon with the numbers 21 written on the shank. It is used so will need cleaning and honing but what surprised me is the shape itself. I've never seen a razor that thin, so I even wonder if it's meant to shave at all (I guess the angle between the blade and skin would be very hard to control). What do you think about this razor, and have you ever seen one like that ?

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Here's a photo with my other razors, both 5/8 for a comparison :
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I have another question. The razor has a little rust on it, and I know for sure I don't want any of that in my blood. Is it possible to get completely rid of the rust and be safe or is it just a bad idea to shave with it at all ?

Thanks !

Tunui

I have seen razors that were factory made at 3/8, but never that thin. How thin the shank is looks like it was meant to be that thin unless the shank was ground down, but it looks like jimps on the bottom so I don't think that was the case. You could shave with it. I read somewhere that the thinner razors were used for the upper lip and detail work, but would shave anything else as well.

What is it? A 1/3 or even a 1/4? Would be interesting to see the how it is ground. Maybe it's for trimming moustaches or something. You can definitely clean it up safely. You'd be shocked by how much good razor can hide even under quite a lot of rust. (As long as edge is reasonable).

I don't know how much fun it would be to shave with such a thin razor . It'll fill up with lather really quickly. I have a 5/8 Griffon which is a very good shaver.

Indeed, the tang relationship indicates it is close to what it was made. A "moustache razor" to be shure! very cool!
Give it a go!

Thanks for you quick responses !

I haven't been able to make a sharp photo (taking them with my cell) but here's what I could manage to show how it is ground.
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I will definitely try to clean it up and test it quickly, probably this week end. I was almost ready to think of it as a collecting razor... We'll see !

That's really cool, I like it! I wonder what it'd be like to shave with? I mean your whole face? Let us know!

Looks to me like it might be a 'nose picker'. Keep that nose hair short :)

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Here's a photo with my other razors, both 5/8 for a comparison :

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So, what is the real size of this tiny razor?

I measured about 0.7 cm, so that would make it a 1/4 inch. And I'd say 2.8 in from head to shoulder.

I just read about cell rot. Maybe the rust on this Griffon is from that ? How can I be sure, and if it is and I need to get rid of the scales, how can I find new scales that small ?

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I just read about cell rot. Maybe the rust on this Griffon is from that ? How can I be sure, and if it is and I need to get rid of the scales, how can I find new scales that small ?

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If you can take close up photos of the suspect area of rust it would be more easily seen on a computer monitor. I can't tell from the photos posted. Clean the metal surface with metal polish, q-tip and a paper towel.

That will get the surface stuff. Not any pitting or all discoloration. Keep that one isolated from your others and check on the progress or the lack of it. I've had a few I quarantined and they ended up not having the rot. I've had a couple that did have it.

Great will try a clean up this week end and will post pictures.

Those look like bakelite scales and even if they are celluloid cell rot is rather rare from what I have seen on black celluloid scales.

Cleaned it up a little with some WD-40 and Q-tips, the rusty spots are still visible but I can't feel them by touch anymore, used a little sandpaper but stopped, afraid it would leave scratches on the blade.
The photos are still taken with my cell, so I couldn't do sharper than this. I guess if I want to leave more posts on this forum I'll have to invest in a camera !

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I have two those thin razor ,one is KUROKI and other is Bontgen & Sabin . I want to say i can shave very well with those thin razors Attachment 119018Attachment 119019

Whaaw They're beautiful !
I still haven't shaved with mine, I tried to hone it but being a novice honer I'm thinking to send it to Lynn for honing. But living in France the shipping would be kind of expensive... I don't know of any honers in France...

To be honest I wouldn't send it out. If you are going to learn to hone just put it away until you can hone it yourself. Say that because IME a razor that thin will not be a pleasure to shave with. YMMV.

Are you saying I should send another of my razors and not this one ?

I like it!