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    First off, congrats to your gift from Santa. :) ...

    First off, congrats to your gift from Santa. :)

    When I started this thread I was still fairly new to straight shaving and in my mind sharper was better and the application of other sharpening...
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    I am surely not the only person who is in persuit...

    I am surely not the only person who is in persuit of the "perfect edge". Since starting this thread my methods of getting one has led me an unexpected conclusion. This type of an edge is great for...
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    The amount of metal that stropping removes is not...

    The amount of metal that stropping removes is not significant in contrast to the cutting power of the Shapton. If you were stropping with pastes you could relate the two more IMHO.
    Mike
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    Looking back at how this thread started and where...

    Looking back at how this thread started and where it has gone gets me thinking. First off, the 30k is what it is, meaning a super high grit stone that is capable of making a wicked sharp highly...
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    I think it is interesting that you are comparing...

    I think it is interesting that you are comparing coticules to the Shapton in you version of the study. I will have to get a super fine finishing Coti sometime soon to try also. I find the blade holds...
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    Over a week on my Challenge razor. The edge is...

    Over a week on my Challenge razor. The edge is holding up well. No signs of deterioration from chipping or distortion under 100x mag. The shave is really good and feels smooth and effortless one week...
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    Do you guys remember "Get Smart"? How about...

    Do you guys remember "Get Smart"? How about renaming the post like this: "Hey Chief, Would you believe Mini Secondary Bevel Refinement Utilizing The State of The Art Model 30000 Grit Shapton Glass...
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    If you have not figured out what Adam has stated...

    If you have not figured out what Adam has stated about the angle, take note at what a relatively new honer brings to SRP. If you read between the lines. (I am sure that master honers that "are still...
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    Tom, I share and appreciate your passion for the...

    Tom,
    I share and appreciate your passion for the 30k and thank you for inviting and providing the means for others interested to participate.
    In this new experiment you are trying, it makes me...
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    Bart's explanation of this phenomenon made it...

    Bart's explanation of this phenomenon made it very easy for me to understand what you are saying about squeezing more potential from the 30k. I definitely am getting more out of my 30K this way. ...
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    For me Jimmy,There is a learning curve shaving...

    For me Jimmy,There is a learning curve shaving with the blades finished like this. It is a real light touch and a little less scything. But light touch is the biggest difference.
    Mike
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    Bart, That was very good insight and made me...

    Bart,
    That was very good insight and made me understand how the secondary bevel reaches the poential of the hone. I wish you could join the group. On the falling back of the edge in woodworking,...
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    Day 2 I am using another Challenge Razor from...

    Day 2
    I am using another Challenge Razor from the same start time as Dave and Adam to keep on the same page. I looked at edge after each shave 100x mag, to look for microchipping or edge...
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    Actually Adam, there is much evidence that...

    Actually Adam, there is much evidence that microbevels make edges last longer and much easier to maintain, but who knows with razors? That is what makes this so fun. As Howard pointed out that some...
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    Thanks howard for your participation. Your...

    Thanks howard for your participation. Your experience is most welcome and will add depth to our little project. Time and personal preference always play into how one likes their blades finished....
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    With all respect Jimmy, ...

    With all respect Jimmy,



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    Kevin, Beg, borrow or steal a Shapton or similar...

    Kevin,
    Beg, borrow or steal a Shapton or similar and work with us and stop bogging the experiment with parsing words. We are going to need a lawyer for a fun experiment if we continue like this....
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    BINGO!!!!!!!!!

    BINGO!!!!!!!!!
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    I hear you Jim, I just want to keep the...

    I hear you Jim,
    I just want to keep the experiment on topic.
    We have a few members who are participating and getting feedback and we are collectively enjoying our study and as Lynn tells us all...
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    Hi Jim, I started all my micros on razors that...

    Hi Jim,
    I started all my micros on razors that did not have issues. I don't believe these ultra fine polishing stones can fix problem razors that you can't "get right". Your razor should be sitting...
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    Zowanda's method is a few notches more...

    Zowanda's method is a few notches more complicated. He starts the double bevel with a steeper angle as he uses more tape the begins the bevel with a Chinese 12K, then to Echer or Shapton 30k. Then a...
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    Touch up is simply to continue to develop...

    Touch up is simply to continue to develop microbevel the same way. Over time it will grow into a regular bevel but that will be some time later. When it gets to that point you start over, make a...
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    Thanks Northpaw and Dave. It is wonderful that...

    Thanks Northpaw and Dave.
    It is wonderful that Shapton 30Ks are weighing in too but equally happy for other polishing stones in the experiment.
    Maybe we can do variations of this later, but this...
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    Hey Justin, I think it would be similar for sure...

    Hey Justin,
    I think it would be similar for sure and might be very useful in it's own right. On some harder steels, I started micros on the 16K and they came out fine.
    It comes up in archieves but...
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    Jury is out as far as longevity Pete. They seem...

    Jury is out as far as longevity Pete. They seem pretty strong in the short term. Touch up would be same amount of tape as you use to make it. I tape spines one layer for primary bevel then one more...
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