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Thanks for the tips, worked much better...AND i got an against the grain shave in. As well as adjusting my shaving technique i restored a 4/8 ive got and used that. Perfect for the job, it aint gonna...

OK i give in, i have to be doing something wrong as shaving my upper lip is starting to get frustrating. My blades take the hair off my face like it aint even there, leaving me smoother than smooth...