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Ray,
I had waited for the meet a year, but in the end my knee operation and the complications afterward prevented me from making the meet. To my regret, I might add. Next year for sure.

Gentlemen,
I think I tried Noble Otter a while back and was not impressed. Now, at least I think I did, for the name rings a bell. I think someone sent me a sample of it, although I am not sure...