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They could be, no question about it :D

Reading what you use - you can get them finer and sharper with say Shapton 15K ($99 or so) and 30K (~$280) hones.

Or try the cheaper approaches: Boron...

I don't think people use rubbing stones on any of the hones you describe (Notron combo, lithide, barber hone)

I do use lather on the Norton sometimes but almost nobody else does. Bill Ellis uses...