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    . . . And for most of us the "arm hair tree top...

    . . . And for most of us the "arm hair tree top test" is root held in.
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    My understanding was that traditionally it is...

    My understanding was that traditionally it is done with the root out so that the weight of the root would get you better stability. I find a few things in the Wiki, now and then, don't jive with my...
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