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Paul, if I am going through the honing process sequence I do go the Zulu after the 12k Nani. For just touch a touch up when needed I go straight to the Zulu for a very short time.

Paul I think you have demonstrated the reason why many of us prefer a step beyond a naniwa 12k even though we can get a great shave off the naniwa 12k. To me it is not a question of one versus the...