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Right there I said that I have used good edges off these hones, I never said I mastered them. I don't have to learn to use a hone to know how an edge shaves off it, but you know that very well. This...

When did I say that I didn't use these hones? :) I have used them, and there are a lot of differences between them in usage. But after stropping, and more so if you used it 1-2 times, it becomes very...

WOW, never knew that. But if its true, than this forum doesn't have any purpose, and my university studies either :)

I only wrote down my opinion after trying about 5-10 pro finished edges and...

I only linked that thread because out of 7 people 6 couldn't tell which razor was honed on which stone. So I would guess if we did a similar test with and escher, CH12k, and a coti, the majority of...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones/57181-totally-non-scientific-experiment.html

This topic is really good to show some other peoples opinion on the topic.

I did not learn them, I just had a few razors honed by experienced honers, when I was trying to choose a finisher I should buy for myself. I did not feel THAT much of a difference between good...

I don't want to disappoint you, but if you got that much better edges with the escher than with the CH12k or the coti, that means that you can't use them yet. Somehow the escher suits your honing...