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The Norton 4K/8K combination is a very good hone, it can be used to set a bevel but it takes a lot longer. The main problem is that they need lapped as the surface is too rough straight from the box...

Darn! I'll have to work on that!:w:rofl2::roflmao

As Jerry has pointed out, there are those that aren't as subtle as others but I enjoy that as it reminds me of when my father would say "By GOD, when you're Wrong! You're Wrong! . I don't know if I'd...